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  Publisher ID: leaked video clip 3 of 4

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

  open to your comments... https://youtu.be/6hew6q7g1qs

  [videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

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  amicabl

  And also young inexperienced brothers from doing the same.
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  Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

  open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

  [videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

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  I hate to say this but there is a strong smell of paranoia in many of these comments.

  Not so long ago there was a news item where a woman complained about a pizza delivery guy “misusing” info she had given when ordering a pizza. He had telephoned asking for a date. I think that is sad that people think that way. Years ago we had telephone directories which few opted out of.

  I remember when freedom of information laws came in in the seventies in Aus. There were salaried employees waving little bits of paper allowing them to see their personal files. I do not know what they expected to find but they all went away disappointed. The files were unredacted, any comments made about them in margins were quite valid.

  I don’t care if WT puts me in their database as mentally diseased or whatever. What does it matter. I would be interested to know whether or not I was entitled to view the complete file they had on me though, although only if I was taking legal action against them for some reason. I don’t know anything about current law in this regard.

  Just a few thoughts.
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  Affected by assembly

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi - first some context - i have been pimo for about 20 years now and so have been to a lot of assemblies in that time.

  last weekend i went to a circuit assembly and for the first time afterwards i was able to talk directly to someone who knows i'm out.

  i realised then that although i didn't agree with any teachings (i sat picking holes in the arguements as usual) the experience of being there had affected me - the way of life started feeling normal as did the overall way of viewing the world.

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  Former brother......Good luck with that if you can keep it up, you are mentally stronger than I am.
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  On and off again JW girlfriend

  by Crzysin in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.

  each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.

  i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.

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  Breaking off with someone at any age can cause a lot of emotional turmoil, however establishing a new relationship is exciting and will eventually be most rewarding if you choose the right person.

  JW is a dangerous cult. jwfacts.com will provide you with a lot of factual information which will assist you in making a sound decision.

  There are a lot of nice people out in the normal JW free world.
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  How Precious Is A Governing Body Mole(Double Agent, 5th Colunm) To Sabatoge The Watchtower Organization?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i would suppose that there are many at very sensitive operations at headquarters and around the world that are moles or double agents a 5th column if you will that are in but mentally out and full of hated for the governing body.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fifth_column.

  a fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favour of an enemy group or nation.

  the activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine.

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  For some strange reason I had a vision of Hogan’s Heroes. Those in charge running around like a chicken with its head cut off, while Hogan’s crew have everything under control, providing information back home to the good guys and manipulating things for their own benefit.

  Fantasy I know, but it makes me feel good.
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  Affected by assembly

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi - first some context - i have been pimo for about 20 years now and so have been to a lot of assemblies in that time.

  last weekend i went to a circuit assembly and for the first time afterwards i was able to talk directly to someone who knows i'm out.

  i realised then that although i didn't agree with any teachings (i sat picking holes in the arguements as usual) the experience of being there had affected me - the way of life started feeling normal as did the overall way of viewing the world.

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  I find myself affected if I watch the society’s videos. I still find them somewhat persuasive.

  However in the March video when Gerrit Lurch mumbled on about trusting him I was able to break free. Actually I felt nauseous.

  The safest way to watch jw videos is through Cedars.

  I haven’t been to any meetings of any kind for over twelve months now and I notice that my wife hasn’t been out in field service this month, although we haven’t discussed it. She watched the CTV w5 program on her iPad and it affected her as it wasn’t just me rambling on. I live in hope.

  Sorry, this is a bit off topic.
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. beliefs

  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  Decades of suppressing information that didn’t seem quite right, the brawling and fighting within the congregation, but most of all the ridiculous seven paragraph WT piece on the overlapping generations with no scriptures.
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  Has this quote on hatred been true in your experience with JW's?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i came upon this quote relating to the results of hatred: .

  "i imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.

  has your hatred of the organization been an effort to avoid dealing with your pain?

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  There are days when I become depressed.

  The cause is probably tiredness or the pressures of life, however I have noticed that I tend to blame it on my decades of cult experience.

  No matter how much I try to get things straight in my mind I find the hatred increasing and I have to watch what I say around my wife. The best therapy is some sort of hard labour on my little property.

  Just an example of how I am affected. The next day I will probably be fine.
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  You're Invited! - Memorial Menu

  by truthseeker in

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  I am not going this year. I have told a few that if I do go I will partake.

  Last year the wine was cloudy and looked “off” or whatever.

  I am beginning to wonder if anyone really cares or perhaps they are just going through the motions.

  I have noticed that in the last few years there is a distinct lack of “zeal” for any activity, perhaps because we sold the kh 9 years ago and now there is no new one and no money either. Sad isn’t it I don’t think.
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  "DO NOT look here! Seriously...just dont!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, so you all looked here??.

  this thread is prompted by losch's stupid 'decrees' in the march 2018 broadcast, where he denounced online information that may be 'negative' about the organization.. it strikes me that the gb are so dumb!

  the moment someone says "dont look at something", human curiousity will make most people look.

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  amicabl

  Thanks stuckie for your enthusiasm and being a key member of this forum.