So what do elders go by now? Is it the 90 sanctions like the latter to elders say or is it this new Elders book 12 months ?
Mikejw
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2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.
by Atlantis in2024-april-elder-manual.. .
https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .
grandpa!.
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What exactly IS 1914 these days?
by Halcon init's no longer a year tying to the present (the old pre-1995 generation belief).
realistically, that's the only reason why it mattered.
and if it doesn't really matter what it is anymore, why would jw not do away with it?.
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Mikejw
Then perhaps the generation theory attached to 1914 could be entirely removed? If so, would that truly be a big deal?
Yes it would mean no more sense of urgency. The end is right around the corner. We are in the final part of the final part shortly before the day and all that.
If they do away with 1914 then how do they keep the sense of urgency?
They say the last of the first part of the overlapping generation died in the 1990s. So actually anyone who overlaps them could be part of the overlapping generation. These ones maybe in the 30s now so plenty of time before they are forced to come up with more new light.
Another 50 - 60 years or so the last of the overlapers will be dead and all they need to do is come up with a third overlapping generation new light doctrine.
Anyone stupid enough to believe David Splain and his stick explaining the overlapping new light would be stupid enough to believe three overlapping generations new light.
Jesus sure is patient sitting on his throne for so long but think of all those babies that have been born and have a chance to hear David Splain pointing his stick on the overlapping charts;)
Of course this won’t apply anymore once Armageddon actually comes, then we will forget about waiting for more babies to be born
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Prediction: I think the Blood Policy is about to change.
by underground ini’d like to start out by saying this is my opinion.. i believe that the organisation is about to make blood transfusions in any form a conscience matter.. they will still ban the eating of blood.. they will gaslight everyone by talking about how it is so much safer now.
and will say something along the lines of how our stance protected us from the aids crisis etc.. and i believe this change is going to happen before the annual meeting 2024.. i think the annual meeting will announce they are scrapping the midweek meeting and instead we get to watch a streamed talk at home through a revamped website similar to the way netflix works.. obviously take my opinion with a hefty pinch of salt..
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Mikejw
The cell saver was a conscious matter. They said it was a continuous circuit.
It the truth is the blood does leave your body and go back, anyway the scriptures say nothing about a continuous circuit.
the volunteer brothers on the various blood committees around the world still tell JWs not accept any of the four primary blood parts.
I can see if becoming a conscience matter the same as the cell saver.
They wish they could distance themselves from the vaccine mandates and they wish they could go back and say it’s upto you and we don’t mandate it. But they can’t it’s too late. They did do a U turn and now say it’s no longer a requirement to go to any of the schools.
I suspect they wish they could go back in time and change the blood doctrine into a conscience matter, but they can’t. All they can do is release new light that from now on if a blood transfusion would prevent you from dying and you choose not to die then that is a conscience matter.
This kind of a U turn would be absolutely devastating for all those who have had loved ones die due to refusing blood
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
Having a go bag is better than not having one.
having a plan to look after each other is better not having a plan.
they have learned a lot from many different disasters around the world and I must admit JWs have this right.
there is always volunteer disaster committees covering all areas. JWs are nearly always the first in with add within a short time.
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2024-04-April-Languages-Announcements And Reminders-S-147!
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Mikejw
I’m still physically in even though mentally I’m agnostic.
I can confirm 100% we do not report Bible studies anymore. All we do is give a thumbs up 👍 that we did some kind of ministry
so the question remains,
how do they know the numbers of Bible studies are in decline?
the obvious answer is the meeting attendance and every other number they do look is in decline so this is why they presume less Bible studies.
Soon it will be obvious to everyone that this organisation is slowly going the way of the dodo.
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2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.
by Atlantis in2024-april-elder-manual.. .
https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .
grandpa!.
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Mikejw
Jehovahs chariot is moving so fast that even the Elders book updates can’t keep up with it.
Yes indeed this new updated version hasn’t got the 90 sanctioned new light in it yet.
they know full well there will be constant updates needed
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What exactly IS 1914 these days?
by Halcon init's no longer a year tying to the present (the old pre-1995 generation belief).
realistically, that's the only reason why it mattered.
and if it doesn't really matter what it is anymore, why would jw not do away with it?.
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Mikejw
The biggest lie of all to do with 1914 was that Jesus is actually Michael the archangel who battled with Satan and his demons in 1914. This supposedly happened 110 years ago and Jesus threw them down to earth. This was what explains WW1. Seemed like a good doctrine at the time.
The unanswered questions are what explains all the war and suffering before 1914 before Satans battle in heaven early 1914?
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What exactly IS 1914 these days?
by Halcon init's no longer a year tying to the present (the old pre-1995 generation belief).
realistically, that's the only reason why it mattered.
and if it doesn't really matter what it is anymore, why would jw not do away with it?.
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Mikejw
No they haven’t yet had new light on 1914.
They still believe Jesus was invisibly enthroned as king in 1914. He has been ruling as king for 110 years now according to official JW doctrine. It all comes from a butchering of Millers ravings of a madman the 77 week prophecy from 607bce which is now known to be wrong.
Everything stems from 1914, they say God chose those men to be his spokesmen on earth 3.5 years later but they say 1919 so the maths don’t add up.
They haven’t ever said new light in these things and they still teach them at the big schools like gilead and SKE.
Its going to be difficult for them but it’s also going to be unavoidable to admit they were wrong all these years.
maybe the current elderly GB hope they won’t have to deal with it in their lifetimes.
this may be why one of the two new younger members admitted that he didn’t want to be GB when they first asked him but then he later relented and said yes.
he knew he would have to be in the GB in his lifetime they will have to deal with the 1914 problems and not have millions of JWs realise it’s just a man made organisation
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2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.
by Atlantis in2024-april-elder-manual.. .
https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .
grandpa!.
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Mikejw
Looking forward to a deep dive by someone on the changes
what are the big changes?
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Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?
by Halcon inregarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.
the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?
because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.
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Mikejw
Lloyd Evens thinks being brought up JW was what made him such a messed up Pervert now. He thinks he’s been sexually repressed
After governing body update number two, there seems to be a huge change. Now it seems teenagers and perhaps those in their 20s can get away with having sex and not get DFed.
If this is true, and we are yet to see this play out, then no more people like Lloyd saying the JWs made them sexually repressed.
All the change means is that if young ones are having sex then Elders will not need to speak to them if the parents or guardians say they have the matter in hand. But if the youths are still having lots of sex the elders have to go and have a chat to them. This is the direction now I’m not making this up.
if the young ones still keep having sex then they will have a 90 day sanction and the elders will chase them to come back after 90dsys but why would they want to? They can still talk to family and friends and shunning has been softened up.
Which is better the old way of no sex before marriage at all? Or the modern way where hardly anyone is still a virgin on their wedding day?