according to watchtower, only anointed christians existed between the first and 20th centuries.
the great crowd of other sheep only began forming after the 20th century started.. how do they support this conclusion?
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So do they claim all first century Christians were anointed? And some came along the first day and these were chosen to be kings and priests?
it’s a rubbish system, depending on when you were born depends if you live on Earth or be a spiritual king for all eternity
there were definitely more than 144k back then alone. Then we are told that god has been choosing different ones throughout the millenniums, and tens of thousands more in modern times
something doesn’t add up
so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
When it first got leaked there was a lot of speculation about rank and file being shocked.
Now it’s out there for all to see what is the reaction to them saying they may be wrong about things but will not apologise?
what is the reaction to the last minute door of opportunity even after the great tribulation?
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
It’s a good point, if a foreign person comes here to my country and doesn’t bother to learn the language after 15yrs how could they start a court case and expect it to be in their language?
i’m sure this has been covered in the past but there are a lot of videos appearing lately bringing this up again.. this chap phoned bethel in london about it and as soon as he said song book the service desk said i’m hanging up now.
they obviously know about it.. https://youtu.be/0dn-gj73r5u?si=ao4cd-0rpg7rv3ws.
so was there some pimos in the art department or was it more sinister and this organisation wanted to but pedo messages on the song book a bit like the demonic hand in the rev book?.
What are the latest subliminal messages?
Forgive me I don’t know what you are talking about?
i assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.
an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.
what is the procedure?.
It would be wonderful if an international law firm specialised in proving deceased JWs we’re brainwashed into putting WT in their will.
There is plenty enough evidence that this is a false religion that could be used in court and even if the family loses think of all this apostate truths that would come out in the court
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
In most countries if you don’t speak the language then you can only get very low pay. It’s a huge sign of being lazy and lacking intelligence to live in a country for years and years but not learning the language
i’m sure this has been covered in the past but there are a lot of videos appearing lately bringing this up again.. this chap phoned bethel in london about it and as soon as he said song book the service desk said i’m hanging up now.
they obviously know about it.. https://youtu.be/0dn-gj73r5u?si=ao4cd-0rpg7rv3ws.
so was there some pimos in the art department or was it more sinister and this organisation wanted to but pedo messages on the song book a bit like the demonic hand in the rev book?.
Syd any explanation with your pictures? The first could be a hand on a Penis but I can’t work out the second picture?
i’m sure this has been covered in the past but there are a lot of videos appearing lately bringing this up again.. this chap phoned bethel in london about it and as soon as he said song book the service desk said i’m hanging up now.
they obviously know about it.. https://youtu.be/0dn-gj73r5u?si=ao4cd-0rpg7rv3ws.
so was there some pimos in the art department or was it more sinister and this organisation wanted to but pedo messages on the song book a bit like the demonic hand in the rev book?.
I’m sure this has been covered in the past but there are a lot of videos appearing lately bringing this up again.
This chap phoned bethel in London about it and as soon as he said song book the service desk said I’m hanging up now. They obviously know about it.
https://youtu.be/0dN-gj73r5U?si=ao4CD-0Rpg7Rv3Ws
So was there some PIMOs in the art department or was it more sinister and this organisation wanted to but pedo messages on the song book a bit like the demonic hand in the Rev book?
"misinformation, disinformation, science, this antiscience, uh conspiracy theory, these are propaganda terms.".
'don't use them' he says.
@ 19:33. https://youtu.be/miauulndllq?t=1173.
Are they trying to say there are no conspiracies? A conspiracy is one or more people doing something that is wrong and lying about it. All governments do this all the time.
They have tried to make it sound like conspiracy theories are only flat Earth, aliens or lizard people nonsense.
But there are plenty of conspiracy theories that are now conspiracy facts, like WMDs in Iraq for example. Do Wtower believe the governments were telling the truth and they just couldn’t find them?
WTower need to take their own advice they give out. I remember one of the covid updates as Splain keep saying in a condescending way “brothers please be careful what you believe” then he went in to endorse the jabs.
I wish I could have gone to Bethel and in front of the entire Bethel family said to the GB “ brother please please be careful what you believe “
just heard about khconf+ app replacing zoom for hybrid meetings at kngdom halls.
did a quick search here and didnt find any posts about it.
have i missed something?.
It’s still zoom here in South East London. All congregations here use zoom but some elder’s really don’t like it.
There is a pin to get in but it’s usually got 1914 in there somewhere😭
there is a controversy over who to let in, some people say they are not feeling well but elders think they are fine. I have heard it that if they say I’m tired I will attend on zoom one elder said we are all tired we all want to stay on zoom 🤣🤣
