This is very good news for any men who are physically in but mentally out and who are appointed because they don’t have to come off they’re appointed MS or Elder they could just stay on and keep saying no to any assignments they are given unless they feel occasionally they might want to do some of the assignments They never have to go on the ministry on first call they never have to go to meetings. They could stay on zoom or if they occasionally feel like it go to the Kingdom Hall and go to the meeting and if they feel like it and syrup and have all the association and go to the social gatherings But don’t be pushed into doing something you don’t want to do when the circuit overseer keeps asking you to do assignments just say no and when he says why not just say I’ve got too much on life is very hard if you have to earn a living yourself it’s not like those of us who have to earn a living ourselves Get a rent bills, travel food and all of their expenses paid for we have to work hard and it’s getting very difficult with the cost of living crisis
JohnR1975
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Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?
by ukpimo inin the past, we used to hear talks on:.
avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.
why evolution cannot possibly be true.
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Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?
by ukpimo inin the past, we used to hear talks on:.
avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.
why evolution cannot possibly be true.
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JohnR1975
wonder what would happen if an elder kept saying no to any assignment he was asked to do? Would he get taken off for not doing any assignments
Nothing will happen. There are elders in my current and old congregation like this. I remember this one old brother who said he had health issues but was fine when it suited him. All he ever did was go to elders meetings and accept anything he liked the sound of like getting involved in judicial matters. But he never ever gave any talks from the platform
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Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?
by ukpimo inin the past, we used to hear talks on:.
avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.
why evolution cannot possibly be true.
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JohnR1975
It definitely is much easier to qualify to be an MS or elder. And very difficult to be removed. They are desperate for men to work for free. The majority of men still physically in don’t want to reach out as they like to call it.
Of the men who are appointed MS or elders, so many appointed men never go on ministry and most meeting are on zoom. They also keep cancelling assignments or say they need a break from any assignment. If you say you have stress or anxiety then you can come off any assignments but it’s very hard to be removed from your position.
It used to be if you found it was all a bit too much then you came off. Now you can stay on in name only.
there is a real need for speakers. So much so the CO is pressuring men to do more. Some just say no, what can the CO do? The answer is nothing.
The public talk coordinator keeps asking for brothers to give talks but the pool of speakers is getting smaller.
sometimes we have the same visiting speakers over and over again.
the congregation is starting to notice and say why don’t we get any new brothers it’s the same few we keep get visiting.
the cat is out of the bag now. There are less and less brothers.
we keep getting watchtowers and such saying the older men need to train younger men to take over. The issue is with this is that most of these older men were in this position as younger men and they never thought the system could last this long.
the current 1914 teaching means we should not need younger men to be trained up that would mean we could still have a long time left???
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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JohnR1975
It’s amazing he is still able to scam so much money out of people by deception
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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JohnR1975
Yeah, for some people he's a hero, justifying shitty life choices and poor moral behavior. They pay a few $ to tell themselves it's "OK"
It’s all about milking the JWs messed up his sexuality somehow as he wasn’t allowed to view porn or dirty movies as a child. Like as if this somehow gave him an excuse to be sexting underage girls and saying “all I wanted was a snog and a cuddle”
dirty old man 🤮
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Suing the Borg
by JohnR1975 inwhat would be the best way to start suing the borg?.
what kind of evidence would you need for this elf is still physically in?.
here is someone suing them https://youtu.be/wr2dpxm7cc0.
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JohnR1975
What would be the best way to start suing the Borg?
what kind of evidence would you need for this elf is still physically in?
here is someone suing them https://youtu.be/Wr2DPxm7cc0
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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JohnR1975
If he is gay or another name I don’t know. But yes something is not right. He is obviously perverted and has admitted to such.
he blames his JW upbringing of course.
those letters he wrote to that underage girl while he was married showed he was messed up. He said he just wanted to cuddle and snog her. This is so sick for a middle aged man to be talking to an underage girl like that.
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Indoctrinate a lie until it become a "truth"
by BoogerMan infebruary 2025 study wt doubles down on the org's lie that being killed by a guinness truck etc.
3 "jesus likened sins to “debts.” when we sin, it is as if we incur a debt to jehovah.
we have to pay the penalty for the sin.
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JohnR1975
It the new light recently clearly said it doesn’t matter if you die before or are alive when Armageddon starts?
Br Jackson said sarcastically “would Jehovah really say no this person died so he will make it but this person was still alive at Armageddon so they won’t make it, then he said really? And again he sarcastically said “really”?
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Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?
by ukpimo inin the past, we used to hear talks on:.
avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.
why evolution cannot possibly be true.
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JohnR1975
I wonder what would happen if an elder kept saying no to any assignment he was asked to do? Would he get taken off for not any assignments?
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What would it like to see
by JohnR1975 inwhat i would like to see and maybe will get there in about another ten years is being a jw is a rewarding thing that enriches your life.. just like other religions out there you may not know the entire truth and maybe not quite right many of the beliefs but to have to idea of a belief centres and stabilises you.. i would like jws to be able to celebrate birthdays and maybe even other holidays if they choose to and not be judged by those who choose not to.. i would like jws to be allowed to have different interpretations of scripture and everyone is happy to agree to disagree and be able to say to each other yes maybe that interpretation is nearer the truth.
we just don’t know.. i would like new members of the gb to issue an apology for previous members getting so many things wrong.. they need to come out and say they were wrong about 1914 this date has no scriptural significance and the same is true of 1919. jws were not chosen in 1919 as the one and only true religion.. we just don’t know about so many things and it takes humility to admit we were wrong.. i would like to see even more lightening up on stupid restrictions like young people being allowed to have a varied friends and activities that are not with jws only..
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JohnR1975
This is actually happening right now in real time.
most JWs ignore shunning of late. They have resumed contact. Most ignore direction from the GB.
most JWs hardly do any ministry they just go for the social aspect.
most kind of celebrate birthdays but hide it. They make excuses calling it something else but still celebrating it.
most don’t believe 1914 doctrinal teachings and not 1919 one true religion was picked either.