Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?

by ukpimo 30 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • ukpimo
    ukpimo

    In the past, we used to hear talks on:

    Avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices

    Why evolution cannot possibly be true

    How Watchtower's teachings are pure and why one should reject "Babylon the Great"

    How close we are to the end of this system

    How not participating in the preaching work at least once a week will incur blood guilt, and why it was non negotiable

    And remember when Watchtower used to criticise other religions for "tickling the ears" of their members by focusing on love and Christian works and not on the most important work of all for Watchtower, its evangelical recruitment work?

    Nowadays, although elements of these negative subjects are still apparent at meetings, such subjects are now overshadowed by a new way of presenting their cult.

    More often, we now hear these messages:

    Love your brothers, forgive them regardless of whatever happened to you

    Remaining united is more important than making sure you are doing everything right

    Develop Christian qualities constantly and remember that you can never perfectly show them to others (in other words, you will fail, but chill out because this is what we expect from you)

    Obey every direction from the Governing Body, even if it appears strange from a human standpoint (do as you're told or we'll "remove" you for apostasy)

    Loyally support Christ's brothers by volunteering any time you have and we thank you so much for your voluntary donations (wink, wink, nudge)

    Show love people who aren't Witnesses and advertise our website freely, with the intention of recruitment of course, perhaps you may be able to trick them into taking an Interactive Bible Course in our own very covert way!

    Beards are now okay, any size is fine as long as it doesn't "stumble" any, unless you're a Bethelite of course who appear to grow beards which look so vile they look like they are stuck on the face (shaved so close) rather than growing out like a naturally normal beard.

    No ties for men, which was a long time coming. Although I see no point in whether a man chose to wear a tie or not, you should dress as you please. No one should judge you for dressing up if you want.

    Slacks for women at meetings and even assemblies and conventions are now okay. The staple of a sister's youth in the past was to buy an attractive new dress every day of the convention for the year, the lowering of standards is disgraceful and takes away the excitement for women who love to shop, now they can just throw on a jumper and slacks, that will do!

    Disfellowshipping ("removal") is now made to seem "softer" with the approach of reinstating a removed individual a few months after the announcement. Pathetic. What is the point of making an announcement and avoiding someone socially for 3 or 4 months? I can choose to avoid contacting my daughter for that long and her reaction would be like "what the hell was the point of that dad?"

    And just ticking a box for congregation publishers? Watchtower has made the ministry (mainly letter writing or bible studies with children) dead easy. Anyone can do it. No real effort is required. Just come out at least once a month for nearly an hour, even half an hour, and you've done the Lord's work. If you are an elder, ministerial servant, or other publisher who may be a PIMO, what is the point? Just exit now while you have the chance.

    What next? I cannot see Watchtower making any more significant changes for some time. However I do have a very strange feeling that next month, on the 1 year anniversary of the "beard announcement" Governing Body update we will probably receive some "news". I don't know if my instincts are correct, it will be interesting to observe what transpires in this Organization.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    They have certainly lowered their standards, and particularly on some sexual matters.

    Soft porn (aka non-abhorrent) is OK (wink wink) vs objectionable abhorrent porn (with greed).

    Oral &/or anal sex (within marriage) are a personal matter (don't force her), vs in the past they were brazen perversions and abhorrent for a Christian.

    Masturbation -- do they even address it anymore. How dumb was that policy? Statistics indicate 95% of single men admit to masturbating regularly while 5% of single men are known liars. (IDK, seems more popular with you gals too these days.)

    Their position on gambling has been watered down through the years, too. Now, innocent "penny gambling" like a poker game or an occasional Lotto ticket is OK. I guess even dropping a few bucks playing slots on the Riverboat is "don't ask, don't tell". Just don't get "greedy" about it. That would be objectionable.

    I wonder if we'll see some relaxing on birthdays. Already they seem to be in the "don't ask, don't tell" arena too, as long as you're not having a drunken orgy or a blow out for the kids. Just keep it quiet.

    Even further evidence of the lowering of their standards, they've invited us to return to the meetings. Are ya kidding?

    "I don't care to belong to any social organization that will accept me as a member." ~ Groucho Marx

  • Ugot2bekiddingme1
    Ugot2bekiddingme1

    I have a relative tell me that is So easy to be a JW...the question is do I want or continue to be one?! No !

  • blondie
    blondie

    Yes, they have been lowering their stands since the first inception of the Watchtower Society. Just seems like it is on a steeper downward direction.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    UKPIMO:

    No, it’s not you. The Witness religion has definitely lowered its standards.

    This is caused by loss of many members due to death; the many who walked away because of faulty teachings and failed prophecy (me over the 1995 Generation teaching).. plus lawsuits and loss of funding in certain countries over human rights issues.

    So, the religion felt compelled to do away with decades-old teachings that weren’t even biblical to start with. I’m sure this is a bitter pill for the judgmental older JWs there who followed all these old rules & regulations.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Yes the Borg is lowering its standards..

    To appear less harsh,, nicer,,, gentler....

    Just to appear nicer to appease some governments

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    I agree about the watering down of requirements and reduction of standards. However, I disagree about this bit:

    What next? I cannot see Watchtower making any more significant changes for some time.

    The current GB have shown, with the various and seemingly random changes of the last couple of years, they they are not averse to changing whatever they want to, whenever they feel like it. Including changing members of the GB itself.

    If, as many suspect, most of their changes are driven by financial issues, a realisation they cannot control day-to-day behaviour any more, or a desire to cosy up to 'secular' authorities, then there's no reason to suspect there may not be other unexpected (or perhaps even long hoped-for) changes in the pipeline.

    Recent GB talks have even continued to hint at more changes to come, and with "new blood" on the GB and the oldest members looking like they don't have long left, I think we can expect to see more "adjustments".

    Whether any of them will be truly radical, and what effect they will have on the R&F and on numbers at meetings and doing ministry, remains to be seen though. The only aspects that won't change are:
    1) Obey the GB without question
    2) give money, and
    3) put "kingdom interests" first (ie: do more for the organisation).

    And of course, linked to 1) is accept all changes without dispute, because according to them we are "so close" to the end and "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not". (WT 15/11/2013)

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    The Borg lost its appeal to the New York supreme court.

    Guess what?

    Without any doubt the Borg will appeal to the U.S. Supreme court now. Usually,,, the higher court upholds the lower court ruling. The Borg will have to do some fancy lobbying to the U.S. supreme court to convince them.

    The way the Borg is losing these court battles,,, you'd have to wonder if the rank and file think "" Is God truly behind this organization?".

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    I can’t find any info about this case.

    Link?

  • markweatherill
    markweatherill

    Lowering standards? Never!

    Someone not rightly minded could, however, misinterpret certain recent, minor, adjustments made regarding the placement of the goalposts.

    Addendum: the goalposts were found not to have moved at all. The space between the goalposts was merely reassessed in line with updated understandings about measurement.

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