Posts by Landy

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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.

by ThomasCovenant in

the sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.

was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.

Landy

Incredible to think that Watchtower gave the order to all congs to destroy a lot of their data AFTER a letter had been sent by the Goddard enquiry not to destroy data that may relevant to the enquiry. It once again shows their complete lack of compliance when it comes to such genuine enquiries and a complete disregard to victims of child abuse.

I was one of the ones that defended the WT due to to believing that they were acting within the rules of the DPA. Now I'm not so sure they are bound by the DPA or that the data they hold is notifiable.

I stil think that asking the BOEs to destroy personal notes is a routine request - nothing to do with deliberately hushing up child abuse cases but, if they did receive a request from the enquiry then they should have sent out letters to the BOEs telling them to preserve any material relevant to any abuse allegations.

I hope Goddard does get involved and asks them some robust questions and where appropriate take legal action against the WTS and against the individual BOEs.

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Richard Dawkins has had a Stroke

by cofty in

he is back home and making god progress.. he has issued an audio statement here....

Landy

I didn't comment that people hadn't liked it. I didn't 'like' it (and fwiw have never yet and never plan to click 'dislike' on any post (except perhaps by accident on the ipad)) - my comment was to those who had actively chose to dislike it.

Nowt as queer as folk.

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JW Teacher Sues School District For Being Fired Over Valentin's Day

by Bangalore in

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/25/suit-teacher-sacked-for-not-throwing-valentines-day-party/.

a former public elementary school teacher who is a jehovah’s witness has filed a lawsuit against the suburban detroit school district where she used to work because, she claims, school officials ordered her to organize a classroom valentine’s day party and then sacked her because she refused.. people who belong to the jehovah’s witnesses, a millenarian christian sect, do not celebrate valentine’s day.

thus, the teacher, yvonne lemmons, is suing for religious discrimination, reports michigan live.. the defendant in the lawsuit is the southfield public school district in southfield, mich.. lemmons, 56, says in her lawsuit that she had been a fourth-grade teacher at macarthur university academy, a public magnet school, for 10 years and had faced no issues concerning her religious beliefs prior to the valentine’s day party kerfuffle..

Landy

I somehowhow get the impression there's more to that story then the headline.

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Richard Dawkins has had a Stroke

by cofty in

he is back home and making god progress.. he has issued an audio statement here....

Landy

2) being instructed by Landy what a dislike means I think it probably meant something else

How the fuck should it be interpreted when you dislike the post of someone wishing a person well?

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

Kate

You're using lots of words but put simply, I (and I think Cofty) understand your reasoning as 'That I'm not sure how that could have happened therefore God did it'.

And as I said earlier (and to wind some up by paraphrasing Dawkins) that just raises more questions and creates the ultimate regressive argument.

No matter which way you spin it you will not find evidence that god did it because first you have to find evidence that god exists.

You have your beliefs based on faith and that's absolutely fine, but don't mistake them for evidence.

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Richard Dawkins has had a Stroke

by cofty in

he is back home and making god progress.. he has issued an audio statement here....

Landy

@secretslaveclass

I can't believe two people have disliked your comment wishing someone a speedy recovery.

There's some compassionate creationists on here!

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Why I think the J.W. Religion will be around for a long time yet.

by smiddy in

on the one hand , if their is a disaster , a natural occurrence such as an earthquake , tsunami , tornadoes etc, the witness armageddon barometer kicks in .many fence sitters , relatives etc.

flock to the nearest k.h.

for a time.. on the other hand ,.

Landy

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Organized religion is barnacle-like in its stickability. And just as barnacles don't use sweet reason to stick to things, organized religion doesn't either.
For example, the heyday of Christadelphians was several long decades ago, but there remains a solid core of loyalty to that millenialist movement which ensures their quaint little halls remain dotted throughout the land and reasonably well attended.
So, yes, JWs will be around for some time to come. But it looks pretty certain their growth heyday in the West is long over.
What will be open to screeds of speculation is the ultimate form their organization will take as the current decade passes - especially their ongoing reconfiguring of their central doctrine, the 1914 generation.
Jump forward to 2026: Don't expect a sudden lurch among (remaining active) members to 'reason' intelligently on the significance of 1914.
But do expect greater dropping off of zeal and a settling into a less urgent lifestyle.
Bring on the pinky rings and Apple watches!

Sums it up pretty well.

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The WTBTS' Webmaster Caught In Another Lie!

by JW GoneBad in

wt's i. t. personnel have no shame putting this content into their website.

in the 'frequently asked questions about jehovah's witnesses' section of their website the following appears: .

how do you know how many are actively witnessing?.

Landy

Of course it's voluntary. Going to the meetings is voluntary. Going on the ministry is voluntary. Being a witness is voluntary. i chose not to do any of that.

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Richard Dawkins has had a Stroke

by cofty in

he is back home and making god progress.. he has issued an audio statement here....

Landy

Who is going to tell cofty what to think if he dies

If you must run round after cofty like a little yapping dog at least make your insults worth reading.

Here's some to get you started.

http://montypythoninsults.com

GWS God Delusion bloke.

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

Landy

It's a guided process in a lab - who knows what the conditions were back then.

I tend to try to be evidence driven without trying to fill in the gaps to match any preconceptions I may or may not have.

I have an open mind and can admit that it's possible that it was guided at the beginning. I think that solution raises a lot more questions than it answers though.

With that in mind I tend to fall on the side of a spontaneous initiation of life. Ok, it might be improbable but so is winning the lottery, yet someone wins it every week.