Whatever we think about this, in the end, the WT will be made to pay. It may not be the justice system-heavenly or earthly, but humanity has had enough of this in even the most backward places. The times are a changing and they can't hide anymore and that is worth plenty, in my book.
I think you give them too much credit. Humanity doesn't give be a shit about the JWs - thankfully they're insignificant. To everyone that isn't a witness or ex-witness they're a bunch of slighty odd but generally nice people who disturb them on a Sunday morning.
If you asked 100 people if they had heard of the AR commission, I would be amazed if even one had.
You make your choices, as did I. It's difficult to move forward looking over your shoulder so put any negative thoughts about JWism to bed and enjoy your life.
i had no doubts at all about the 'truth' untill a friend of mine in the cong' began falling away.
in trying to help him i had to ask questions and do research and that of course cracked the doors of my mind open for the first time in over thirty years.. years ago, when jwd allowed members to have signatures, i used the following quote from voltaire as mine.
i still love it.. doubt is uncomfortable, certainty is ridiculous..
Sure, Richard gives the forum balance - his views are always slanted to show the Watchtower in the best light. He gives the facts but he doesn't always present them without bias, and he doesn't always give all the facts.
Well it not like there's no bias the other way on here so maybe that's not a bad thing?
I've got no love for JW org but being away from it for 20 years has left me ambivalent - you could say I'm an ex ex JW.
And I didn't take your read on his post - simply read it as the case and money order is on hold due to the appeal hearing.
..... but since your post's clearly indicate that you see no problem with the way JW"s, the GB, etc handle child molesters why are you trying to detract one's from these ad's, and $4,000 a day payment.
If you can point me to somewhere I've condoned child abuse or condoned the JW's handling of it I would be most grateful and I will humbly apologise.
If you can't do that then I can only assume that you're extrapolating something from nothing and are just a little bit mental and you can be safely ignored.
a bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?
wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?
) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.
Richard - I have stated this in the past (and I'm probably going to get shot for saying this). I have sometimes wondered if the child abuse issue is been used as a weapon to get back at Wt for all the hurt it has caused them as exjw.
You will get shot but anybody who can string two thoughts together will see you are right. The way RO has been treated on this thread for simply presenting useful info is pretty shocking and shows that one or two of you haven't quite thrown off the JW judgemental mindset as much as you think you have.
i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.
i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.
I wouldn't even say there's a need to specifically step down from being an MS. Just keep refusing responsibilties/talks due to 'other commitments', start missing meetings and they'll remove you.
There's a lot of talk on here about people being DF'd for not going anymore but it only happens when they open their mouths. It really is a case of loose lips sink ships.
I stopped going over twenty years ago now; I didn't get DF'd, my wife didn't get DF'd, about 80% of those I grew up with have stopped going now and I can only think of one that got DF'd.
Saying that, I don't know of anyone that got DF'd for apostasy 20 years ago; now I would imagine it's probably the most common cause.
