Possibly. Christianity threw off the warfare and crusades about 400 years ago. So give them another 400 years and they'll be a Muslim version of the CoE - Islam Lite as it were.
Posts by Landy
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Moral High Ground
by Spoletta init seems that the other threads about trump's policies are veering off into endless ideological theories about how much better we are than islam.
does anyone think there is a chance that islam can be changed in the same manner that christianity has over the centuries?
with the inflow of ideas from western countries into the middle east, will people gradually want to move away from sharia law to something less patriarchal and cruel?
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The Inherent Founding Paganism of the Jehovah's Witnesses
by Finkelstein inthere is an inherent founding association with paganism through and by the founding leader of the watchtower corporation that has to be realized and accepted as such.
c t russell was once the head editorial writer for the wts.
right up until his death in 1916. russell had associated himself with freemasons for awhile, giving talks at freemason halls and handing out literature he published at the same time.. he made up more or less a commercialized version of the gospel based upon a new era for mankind which he calculated by measuring the dimensions of the great pyramid of giza.
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Landy
I'm sorry but you're all totally ignoring the loophole that is 'new light'.
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Just sharing-Ex JW's in Media
by Confusedandangry inhttps://youtu.be/qvm1prhnoci.
i'm not sure if anyone has already posted this link or info on deborah frances white.
i just wanted to share for anyone interested in hearing her experience.
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Landy
Perhaps if you go looking, but she's not in your face with it. Or ashamed of it.
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New to site...let me intro myself
by LarryCope infirst, i've been out of the organization for 20 years this very year!
i was baptized in 1979 and attended one of the lancaster ohio congregations.
realizing i was gay, i left and after being in the columbus gay community for 6 months, decided bar hopping and cruising was not my cup o' tea.i decided to return in late '90 and was reinstated in '91.
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Landy
Absolutely! Don't get me wrong, it was a terrible burden. I remember going in FS with on brother who was an absolute doll and having to focus on my presentations. WHEW!!
Yeah, sorry about that. I was a bit of a stunner in my time.
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Circuit Assemblies in the "Good Old Days"
by BluesBrother injust been reminiscing about how c/a's have changed since we were young.
i remember when they started friday night in some rented hall , as well as the two weekend days.
saturday morning was a brief session then field ministry (which only a few performed ) and sunday sessions.. in the free time around the venue we just used to hang out socialising and eyeing up the girls.
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Landy
He did yes - I think he became pretty high up at the London bethel. I have vague memories of him staying at our house during his visit.
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one thing about all these pedophiles cases i cant understand is..
by nowwhat? inas a parent, if it was my kid i would go straight to the police and or beat the living shit out of the perpetrator.
were all these parents of the victims brain dead or that indoctrinated?.
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Landy
6. elders tell you to forgive and sit in hall with molester.7 receive death threats 8. get restraining order 9. told if you pursue your implied invitation to attend hall will be revoked. 10 pursue 11 elders harass 12 send elders cease and desist letters for not following court order 13 can't disfellowship us but they go around telling others to view us that way 14. find out we do have a few real friends 15 find this site 16 personal research 17.TTATT 18 freedom
That is unreal. Hope your child came through it ok
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Map: Clinton Archipelago vs Trumpland
by Simon ingreat visualization of the voting difference from the election!.
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https://www.inverse.com/article/25635-map-remakes-us-trumpland-clinton-archipelago.
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Landy
I think it's telling that the only US places I have any intention of visiting are on the coast!
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Circuit Assemblies in the "Good Old Days"
by BluesBrother injust been reminiscing about how c/a's have changed since we were young.
i remember when they started friday night in some rented hall , as well as the two weekend days.
saturday morning was a brief session then field ministry (which only a few performed ) and sunday sessions.. in the free time around the venue we just used to hang out socialising and eyeing up the girls.
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Landy
Circuit and district assemblies were looked forward to for one thing and that was checking out the girls in other congregations. Once married they were just a ballache.
Our memorable COs were, in no particular order;
Mike Reid (to young to form an opinion)
John Andrews (as above)
Ray Midgely (complete raving nutcase)
Roddy Hollyoake ( Sexy wife)
Glen McFarlane (ok but unmemorable)
George Hilton (sound as a pound - best CO by far)
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New to site...let me intro myself
by LarryCope infirst, i've been out of the organization for 20 years this very year!
i was baptized in 1979 and attended one of the lancaster ohio congregations.
realizing i was gay, i left and after being in the columbus gay community for 6 months, decided bar hopping and cruising was not my cup o' tea.i decided to return in late '90 and was reinstated in '91.
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Landy
In my local congregation of about 120 in which I was raised here in New Zealand, I estimate there were 8 to 10 of us young ones who were gay or lesbian. Of course, to the best of my knowledge no one was "practising"
When you say 'you estimate', was that because of the 10 percent 'rule' or because you personally knew of 8 to 10 that were gay?
I mention it because I was in a cong of around 120 and can't think of anyone that was/may have been gay, with the possible exception of two sisters that may have been, although I'm only basing that on the fact they never married.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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Landy
Just saw a great quote from philosopher Karl Popper in "The Open Society and Its Enemies" which he described this as “the paradox of tolerance”:
You may want to read Plato and how democracy will inevitably lead into tyranny and despotism - I think he was talking about Trump in particular!