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  Why take it personally?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  a random thought occurred to me today.. i actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .. they do this based not on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.. it must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has not actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.. it reminded me of this thread i started some time back.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation.

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  Landy

  Not so sure that they do, by and large, feel remorse for treating disfellowshipped ones like pariahs.

  In my experience the majority of witnesses are very superior and holier than thou and loved a reason to look down on others.
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  Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why were we ever a jw?

  were we mad?

  we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

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  Landy, you probably know better than I do. After all, you weren't there. I think your number three applies to you. My windows are a bit soiled. Will you do them again, please?

  Did you miss the 'on the surface bit?' mr touchy?

  no problem - send me your address and I'll pop over and do them. I'll warn you now though my prices are high!
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  Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why were we ever a jw?

  were we mad?

  we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

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  Landy

  Through the years I've analyzed her in absentia (she won't talk to me, and I gladly reciprocate). Her dad died when she was just entering her teens. She was the apple of her daddy's eye, and his death left her in the custody of her crazy inbred hillbilly mother and her older unkind brothers. She was sexually abused within a year of her dad's death, and soon fled north to join her older married sister who did provide her with some sanctuary. But sanctuary doesn't prevent a person from making a whole bunch of brand-new bad decisions, and she did. Instead of seeking knowledge and wisdom, she decided she "knew it all" and sought good times and parties and such.

  That led to an unwanted pregnancy (Hi there!) and a lousy marriage, yoked to an undisciplined man who felt trapped and directionless. His favorite excuse was that everybody always lied to him.

  On the surface it sounds as though you may be judging her a tad harshly.

  Another born in here.

  It seems to me that people become witnesses for several reasons.

  one, to replace a family environment that they are missing. Maybe they've been abused or suffered some form of neglect and the witnesses come along with their love bombing and voila. Instant family.

  two, they've suffered a recent traumatic life event of some sort and are vulnerable and looking for answers. Any answers.

  three, they like to be a big fish in a small pond. Joe the window cleaner never gets to boss anyone about at work, but at the meetings he can walk tall and be admired.

  There may be more, but they don't have to be an idiot. Not necessarily.
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  I got a voicemail from an elder about meeting with me.

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday, i missed a call and got a long voicemail from an elder who would like to meet with my wife and i some time this weekend, with another elder who dealt with my brother.

  i haven't responded.

  it's meeting night tonight, and my wife has already talked about staying home to do yoga with me instead.. yeah.

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  Landy

  Loose lips sink ships - just keep your thoughts to yourself and fade away into the sunset.
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  How do you prove the watchtower organisation is not genuine using recent evidence?

  by punkofnice in

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  when i was a jobo, i would say that anything in jobo history, eg.

  miracle wheat, beth sarim et al (old light), wasn't worth considering as evidence that the wbt$ was a weirdo cult.. i think that's probably the jobo mindset now.. what would you show them from very recent lies teachings to encourage them to consider the possibility the wbt$ is a scam?.

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  Landy

  As you can't prove a negative, you can't prove that they're not genuine. On the plus side they can't prove that they are either.
  
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  so let me get this straight.. the borg moves into their new corporate country club....

  by nowwhat? in

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  with their luxurious lakeside condos.

  takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.

  but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.

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  HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

  by WTS Archive in

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  tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

  please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

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  Which court is it being heard in?
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  Worship of Men and Emphasis on Titles

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember a few years back at a circuit assembly, a few bros were introducing themselves to the co, they made sure to mention that they were an ms or an elder from such and such cong.

  i was also an ms, but was the only one that introduced themselves by just my first name.

  i was so irritated and blown away at the arrogance by these bros, trying to impress men with titles!

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  If I was at a different congregation people used to ask what position I had in my congregation.

  I used to take perverse pleasure in saying, 'Just a common publisher brother, just a common publisher'.
  
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  Potential Muslim convert

  by StopTheTears in

  1. jw
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  about a month ago, i purchased arabic/english gospels of john that contain a commentary for muslims.. .

  i went to one of my neighbors and spoke to him and gave him one.

  fast forward to today, my brakes need done so i took my car to the shop, walking back into my street i saw my friend abdullah outside.. .

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  Landy

  Christianity is far more evil than Islam. Just look at the numbers, the sheer millions who have been killed in the name of the Christian god.

  The thing is, Christianity, by and large, has managed to evolve away from that. There's parts of the Muslim world that haven't managed that yet.
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  Were Conventions, Asemblies and the Memorials boring to you?

  by HereIgo in

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  2. experiences

  conventions always just seemed like more of a vacation to me than anything else, especially if you had to travel out of town for it, but definitely were exhausting especially toward the end of each day.

  for some reason i didn't mind the special and circuit assemblies too much, probably because they seemed like more of a social event than anything else and only 1-2 days.

  the memorial always was kind of boring to me.

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  Landy

  On the whole I liked conventions, because, for a young person, I was strangely interested in things like four-part symposiums on the prophet Habakkuk and new light on Daniel's prophecy and so on girls