Posts by pomegranate

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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...

by AGuest in

and you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?

sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.

if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.

pomegranate

AGuest, a woman "teacher" who hears Satan and professes spiritism (a form of sorcery), teaches this:

Now, I asked you did my Lord ever sin? My answer would be, of course, that no, he never did. However, my initial question to you was... did he lie... to ANYONE? You responded that "I never said our Lord sinned." Which is, of course, quite correct. But that does not answer the question, 'did he ever lie', does it?
Now, permit me, to share with YOU what has been shared with ME... by my Lord... and which, in face, prompted this inquiry by him, which he gave to ME... to give to you. Note:
"'The world has not reason to hate you, but it hates me,
because I bear witness concerning it that its works are
wicked. You go on up to the festival; am not yet going
up to the festival, because my due time has not yet fully
come.' So after he told them these things, he remained in
Galilee."
So far, so good... yes? Ah, but let's continue:
"But... when his brothers had gone up to the festival,
then he ALSO went up himself... NOT openly... but in
secret."
Uhhhhh-ohhhhhh. My Lord told his disciples that he was NOT going to do something that he then... IN SECRET... actually did. Hmmmmm...
And yet, he was 'without sin'.

She plainly teaches that Jesus is a liar!!! Blasphemy to the very spirit of the Almighty God!!! You ridiculous foolish woman!!

You are a fake and false teacher, masquerading as The True God's servant. You teach lies from your lord Satan. You are his servant. He is the father of the lie and you follow in his tradition.

2 Cor 11:13-15
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Mark 8:33
"Get behind me, Satan!" he said. "You do not have in mind the things of God...

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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...

by AGuest in

and you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?

sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.

if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.

pomegranate

AGuest exposed:

AGuest proclaims:

My primary 'gift', dear 'Pom... is discernment of inspired utterances... which means hearing spirits.

2 Cor 11:13-15
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

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Scriptural Validity of Earthly Paradise?

by stevieb1 in

society correct in it's interpretation of such scriptures as psalm 72:16; isaiah 11:8,9; 35:1,6,7; 55:13; 65:21-23 and most prominently revelation 21:3,4 by intimating that these things will be fulfilled on earth at some point after armageddon, or have these verses been taken out of context and misapplied?

it would be important to be sure on this matter as this is a primary witness doctrine.

if they are wrong on this matter then what about jehovah's original purpose for the earth (psalm 37:11; isaiah 45:18)?

pomegranate

AGuest exposed:

2 Cor 11:13-15
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

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Scriptural Validity of Earthly Paradise?

by stevieb1 in

society correct in it's interpretation of such scriptures as psalm 72:16; isaiah 11:8,9; 35:1,6,7; 55:13; 65:21-23 and most prominently revelation 21:3,4 by intimating that these things will be fulfilled on earth at some point after armageddon, or have these verses been taken out of context and misapplied?

it would be important to be sure on this matter as this is a primary witness doctrine.

if they are wrong on this matter then what about jehovah's original purpose for the earth (psalm 37:11; isaiah 45:18)?

pomegranate

Tree's have limbs, just like arms outstretched.

I see you are blind to prophecy.

Ex 17:10-13
10 So Joshua fought the Amalekites as Moses had ordered, and Moses, Aaron and Hur went to the top of the hill. 11 As long as Moses held up his hands, the Israelites were winning, but whenever he lowered his hands, the Amalekites were winning. 12 When Moses' hands grew tired, they took a stone and put it under him and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held his hands up--one on one side, one on the other--so that his hands remained steady till sunset. 13 So Joshua overcame the Amalekite army with the sword.

Moses with his hands held up and steadied by Aaron and Hur, "Aaron and Hur held his hands up--one on one side, one on the other

Christ died on a cross as prophesied by the actions of these three men.

Your man made wisdom shall be wasted to the ground and pummeled into oblivion.

The cross is true.

PS. Moses remained in that position till sunset. Christ was on the cross to that very same time.

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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...

by AGuest in

and you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?

sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.

if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.

pomegranate

Satan is YOUR ONLY spirit.

The lies and false teachings in this thread from you prove HE is your Father. You listen to a liar and teach lies, and believe your own lies.

Jezebel woman.

Rev 2:20-23
Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead.

2 Kings 9:37
37 Jezebel's body will be like refuse on the ground in the plot at Jezreel, so that no one will be able to say, 'This is Jezebel."

Eat your lying words:

AGuest earlier said:
>>But you didn't 'want' it. Now, be gone from before my face, for I will not speak with you again. (underline added)

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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...

by AGuest in

and you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?

sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.

if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.

pomegranate

>>>My primary 'gift', dear 'Pom... is discernment of inspired utterances... which means hearing spirits.<<<

That's what I thought, Satan and his pals are in your ears. You listen just like Eve did, and believe THEM.

1 John 4:1
4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

I have tested, and your spirits are NOT from God.

Job 12:11
11 Does not the ear test words as the tongue tastes food?

1 Thess 5:21
21 Test everything. Hold on to the good. 22 Avoid every kind of evil.

Matt 24:24-25
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

2 Peter 2:1-3
2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Matt 7:24-25
24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of MINE (NOT "SPIRITS") and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.

2 Cor 11:14-15
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Mark 8:33
"Get behind me, Satan!" he said. "You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

1 Thess 5:21-22
21 Test everything.

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"Old Light" from the apostles ?

by thinker in

the watchtower society uses the apostles words to justify the act of shunning.. "purposes served by disfellowshipping: .

upholds jehovah's name and standard of righteousness.

(acts 15:14; 1 pet.

pomegranate

I see no contradiction in Christ's teachings and the Apostles HE appointed to represent him and his ways. If you doubt the validity of their writings, you doubt their appointment by God.

Moses also represented Christ by Divine appointment. Paul was chosen by Divine appointment. To say Paul or any other Apostle was doing his own thing, would be akin to the Israelites saying Moses had no authority either. That sounds too familiar:

Num 12:1-2
12:1 Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite. 2 "Has the LORD spoken only through Moses?" they asked. "Hasn't he also spoken through us?"

Num 12:4-8
4 At once the LORD said to Moses, Aaron and Miriam, "Come out to the Tent of Meeting, all three of you." So the three of them came out. 5 Then the LORD came down in a pillar of cloud; he stood at the entrance to the Tent and summoned Aaron and Miriam. When both of them stepped forward, 6 he said, "Listen to my words:

"When a prophet of the LORD is among you,
I reveal myself to him in visions,
I speak to him in dreams.
7 But this is not true of my servant Moses;
he is faithful in all my house.
8 With him I speak face to face,
clearly and not in riddles;
he sees the form of the LORD.
Why then were you not afraid
to speak against my servant Moses?"

In like manner, why then are you not afraid to speak against the chosen Apostles (servants) of the Lord? It's the same thing friends.

I see plenty of contradiction in the way divinely UNAPPOINTED men apply the Apostles admonition of who/what is considered avoidable by other men.

I see no contradiction in Christ and his representatives counsel. It is harmonious.

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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...

by AGuest in

and you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?

sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.

if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.

pomegranate

No where in the Bible will you find ANYONE referencing "MY LORD" to another believer. Period. It is a phrase of self righteous segregation.

>>>My Lord has directed me to ask YOU, dear 'Pom, whether YOU think David guilty of self-righteous segregation:

"The utterance of JAH... TO MY LORD... is:
'Sit at my right hand'..."<<

The above phrase is used by King David because Christ IN HUMAN NAME SAKE was NOT KNOWN AT ALL as the Messiah at that time, and you darn well know it smoke blower. "Lord" had to be used in identifying the Messiah as a SECOND "YHWH" and savior.

>>I did not choose my Lord... but in truth, HE... chose ME... and in doing so... became MY Lord, as I have accepted him as such.<<

Oh is that so? Prove it. You raise people from the dead do you? You walk on water do you? You do many powerful works in his name do you? Show me your wimpy false Christ's full power you Jezebel woman. Since the passing of the Apostles, NO ONE can claim TO ANOTHER of being CHOSEN until it is finished and the reward is given to each one according to his works.

>>I refer to my Lord in this way so that there is NO doubt in HIS mind...<<

The true Lord knows ALL things as He is Omniscient. He needs NO REMINDER from you, like the true Lord would forget WHO IS HIS. You belong to a false Lord whom you profess speaks lies and is yet sinless. False teacher you are, and a slave to darkness.

AGuest earlier said:
>>But you didn't 'want' it. Now, be gone from before my face, for I will not speak with you again. (underline added)

Your also are a liar like your counterfeit "My Lord".

>>that I accept him as my Lord.<<

Christ chooses who's accepted (HE seperates the sheep from the goats), not YOU CHOOSING HIM TO CHOOSE YOU.

>>My 'witness', therefore, is NOT for you, so much as it is for him... for the angels... and for the Adversary.<<

You work for Satan. Go to him, he calls you.

>>Leave from before me, 'Pom...<<

No...you're the one off the track of truth as a run away freight train. Go multiply more of your lies. Just like your "Daddy" do.

>>for you are a man of contention.<<

I am a man of truth seeking truth of which you are FULLY against. BOTH.

>>And 'contentions', are a 'fruit' NOT of the spirit... but a 'work' of the flesh.<<

Yes, Exposing liars and false teachers like YOU would seem "contentious" because your doctrinal pants are being pulled down exposing your shamefulness. The real contention is between yoou and the truth of God, not me.

Now let your yes mean yes and your no no, and keep quiet towards me as you said you would.

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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...

by AGuest in

and you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?

sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.

if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.

pomegranate

>>Did Paul write the gospel of Luke? Matthew?<<

No he didn't. Yet Paul still saw Christ at his conversion. And yet, ALL his letters use "OUR LORD" period. ANYONE referencing Christ as "My Lord" in the Gospels had him alive in the flesh first person, AND ADDRESSED HIM SO TO HIS FACE. No where in the Bible will you find ANYONE referencing "MY LORD" to another believer. Period. It is a phrase of self righteous segregation.

>>DUH its entirely proper to address Jesus as "My Lord" as indeed he is the Lord of his people. Even I can see that and im stupid.<<

Well, maybe someone who admits to their stupidity is just as they confess. It is entirley PROPER to address Christ as "My Lord" when communicating directly to HIM. That IS NOT THE problem.

One person says, My Lord says blah blah blah...
Another person says, well My Lord says blah blah blah...

When WE admit to ONE Lord in a group setting, the Lord is OURS and NOT MINE. "My Lord" in a group setting is a phrase of segregation. It is not unlike this:

Luke 18:9-13
9 To some who were confident of their own self righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'

13 "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'

>>Quit this childish little game Pom, you little Pharisee,<<

A self admitted stupid person is also a finger pointing name caller...by your own words you identify yourself.

Well, by the law, Paul was also a "Pharisee"...

Phil 3:4-5
If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee;

I'll take your comment in the Apostle Paul's sense.

>>trying to trip up AGuest etc with their words.<<

She does just fine tripping herself up. She needs no help from me.

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Scriptural Validity of Earthly Paradise?

by stevieb1 in

society correct in it's interpretation of such scriptures as psalm 72:16; isaiah 11:8,9; 35:1,6,7; 55:13; 65:21-23 and most prominently revelation 21:3,4 by intimating that these things will be fulfilled on earth at some point after armageddon, or have these verses been taken out of context and misapplied?

it would be important to be sure on this matter as this is a primary witness doctrine.

if they are wrong on this matter then what about jehovah's original purpose for the earth (psalm 37:11; isaiah 45:18)?

pomegranate

There, we can see your scales now.

1 Cor 1:18-25
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.

1 Cor 3:19-20
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness"; 20 and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."

Rom 3:4
Let God be true, and every man a liar.

Go away then and put faith in your fellow liars.