I believe:
YHWH Father and YHWH Son are TWO VERY DIFFERENT beings.
It was YHWH Son who died, NOT Father.
Edited by - pomegranate on 8 August 2002 18:14:4
i still say that, christiaity is f--- up in these last days.. christianity teaches that the messiah is god, when the bible clearly points out that jesus is a prophet sent by god... jesus prayed to god<----that's the biggest proof... so i think if anybody believe that jesus is god, is not only an'-ti-christ(not accepting) but also a liar, foolish, and you knoweth nothing, and you are not close to god or christ, you are closer to that devil which we call satan....
I believe:
YHWH Father and YHWH Son are TWO VERY DIFFERENT beings.
It was YHWH Son who died, NOT Father.
Edited by - pomegranate on 8 August 2002 18:14:4
i still say that, christiaity is f--- up in these last days.. christianity teaches that the messiah is god, when the bible clearly points out that jesus is a prophet sent by god... jesus prayed to god<----that's the biggest proof... so i think if anybody believe that jesus is god, is not only an'-ti-christ(not accepting) but also a liar, foolish, and you knoweth nothing, and you are not close to god or christ, you are closer to that devil which we call satan....
>>If Jesus was equal to God then why did Jesus have to die for us sinners?<<
I believe two scales needed to be rebalanced because of Satanic rebellion:
The man Jesus (Perfect) - The man Adam (Imperfect)
This earthly scale above was rebalanced by the death of the PERFECT MAN Jesus on earth. Life for life.
The God Jesus (True God) - Satan the Devil (False God)
This heavenly scale above was rebalanced by the death of the prehuman TRUE GOD Jesus in heaven. His life as YHWH in heaven was taken by Father YHWH. (see Abraham and Isaac) Father sacrificed his Son in heaven.
Please note BOTH conditions satisfy life for a life in heaven as on earth. Both scales become rebalanced.
matt 18:5.
5 "and whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me.
6 but if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
How about eleven geriatric old men know about it and assisting 23,720 molesters to have further access by hiding their identities.Sounds like milstone time to me.
I'd call that hiding the darkness in the darkness...I'd call that sharing in the sins of others...
YES, I'd call that MILLSTONE time.
matt 18:5.
5 "and whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me.
6 but if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Sin = 45 year old man performing oral sex on a five year old child. Then making the child reciprocate.
Are you happy now?
~Move over glory to Sons of old fighters past~ Tales...
matt 18:5.
5 "and whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me.
6 but if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Matt 18:5
5 "And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. 6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
i have seen my share of horrors in my life; my own; others when i worked on the ambulance and in the funeral home.
i've come home covered in someone else's blood and dealt with death on numerous times.
i have been to the dentist five times in the past month.
Nitrous Oxide
- I'm very happy at the dentist. Pull all my teeth out, I'll just gum my food to death
I LOVE that stuff. I asked my dentist if he would prescribe a tank that I could walkl around with.
He said NO.
hehe.
this isn't jw related, but i was hoping to get some feedback on a problem that i'm having.. here's the deal.
yesterday my downstairs neighbor told the maintenance man that she want to shoot us (my family).
i've known for about 2 years that she has some mental problems and was somehow focused on us, but i didn't realize to what extent.. two years ago, around christmas, we came home from somewhere and saw 2 christmas cards laying on the rug outside our door.
Sounds like a classic paranoid schizophrenic.
I have a kid brother that is such and is very delusional when not taking his meds.
This person needs medical attention if you ask me.
was it jehovahs witnesses who acknowledge the church father as leading teachers?
this is a very interesting statement by justin.
do you accept origen as an authority when he said jesus is our god?
Duality.
I believe the Father and Son to be as much God as
the male and female are both man.
many of the posters here have been in the organization for years.during the time that you have been associated, have you ever had to go before a commitee?
did you confess to something or were you confronted by the elders?
were you ever accused of something but it couldn't be proven?
During the time that you have been associated, have you ever had to go before a commitee?
Yup. Twice.
Did you confess to something or were you confronted by the elders?
Confronted Twice.
Were you ever accused of something but it couldn't be proven?
First time accused of falsehoods and they WOULD not present accusers or present any witnesses. Second time accused of truthhood. (Celebrated X-mas, and was reported) We admitted our decision to celebrate Christ.
Did your experience with the elders affect your view of the organization?
Yup. The first time was PURE madness...that's when we started to drift off.
i'm working on printing a new bumpersticker, but i need a rough estimate of how many i should run:.
if the watchtower society doesn't lie,.
well then, jehovah god is the liar!.
Jehovah and God are the same entity.
I don't believe that for one minute.
I don't believe a true God would want his "name" tied to child molestation filth in anyway in the slightest. You?