creationists like to attack evolution by attacking the "fossil record" as being incomplete; i.e., if something existed, for example, transitional states, then we should see evidence of them in the fossil record.
so, their argument is that if something existed, then we should see it in the fossil record.. let's take a look at the case of kangaroos.
we must assume, if we accept the notion of a global flood, that noah collected two kangaroos for his menagerie in the ark.
Here is how a professor of zoology at Oxford University, puts it :
"In any case, no real evolutionist, whether gradualist or punctuationist, uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of the theory of evolution as opposed to special creation."*Mark Ridley, "Who Doubts Evolution?" in New Scientist, June 25, 1981, p. 831.
it was the point i decided to become agnostic.
i found my final stumbling block in my search for god.
i asked (myself as well as others): why would god create carnivorous animals before sin?
I believe sin has nothing to do with the animals that were created to eat each other. They were eating each other before Adam and Eve sinned.
I believe God created things the way He did so that you and I would know there was something very WRONG in creation.
lyingeyes, i read your post to d.r.
and you mentioned that your ancestors are native american indians.
what nation?.
Danny...should be in yer box.
lyingeyes, i read your post to d.r.
and you mentioned that your ancestors are native american indians.
what nation?.
I had the pleasure of collaborating on a musical composition with a Native American a few years ago, he was Chippewa. It was a very moving tune about how the Indian life was so forcibly changed by progress and "civilization." This particular Indian (he went by the name Tankar) would fall back on his music as a weapon to keep away all of the negative thoughts he had regarding the forced civilization of the Native Americans.
If anybody wants a copy of the mp3 and you're on a reasonbly fast connection, I could email to you...it's about 3.5 meg in size.
I think you might enjoy it.
tonight i took my kids to my aunt and uncles yearly halloween party.
this was the second year we made it.
the kids had a blast, many activities and ran around like the bunch of wild indians they desended from.
I used to think time was my enemy.
I now realize time is my friend.
sorry, i don't have time to search the site right now.
this bloody french isp is rubbish, and i keep getting dropped when i try anything that takes more than 10 seconds.
has the society ever come up with any intelligent reasoning to counter the ages that carbon dating/science has given to various artifacts, i.e.
Sooooo. Instead of making the CLAIMS of inaccuracy, why not expose it?
If you call "exposing" posting a link to talkorigens, I could just as well link to the full Bible and be just as credible as you think you are.
Get it?
tonight i took my kids to my aunt and uncles yearly halloween party.
this was the second year we made it.
the kids had a blast, many activities and ran around like the bunch of wild indians they desended from.
Time.
i have received inquiries about how i was trained by spirit as a psychologist.
i was led to many sources of enlightenment.
books routinely was i led to that it was important i read.
OK. I figure the next best thing to do would be to do the yellow, since that is my least fav and it is theoretically supposed to be the most indicative color of a persons faith.
rejected yellow indicates that the light is going out of your life in that you are loosing hope your circumstances will get better. You have had many disappointments in your life and as a result developed an intense phobia against being further disappointed. You refuse to trust people feeling if you do they will only hurt you.
Light going out of my life? ahhhhhh NOPE. Coming out of the the dubs fairly recently is light going out? Having more faith in God and the Bible then I ever thought possible is light going out? I have close friends, very close friends that I can talk of the deep things of God and that is light going out? I could list so much more...but I'm sure my "light" is a big bore.
Everyone has dissappontments. I am one to MOSTLY get over them and get on with life. Surely, death is the biggest dissappoinment, and it is a difficult dissappointment to surmount. I have surmounted that dissappointment on a few occassions.
My problem is I trust people too much. I never read the bad in people. Lots of times, I have to ask my wife to read a persons intentions for me, because I'm stupid at it. It's almost funny. I guess that's good and bad. Good, because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt by nature. Bad, because I often get the knife in my back. Or, at least I used to... I rely on my wife a lot more.
Reasons why I don't like yellow:
Yellow to me (don't you fans of yellow get offended by my self description of the color yellow please) is the color of dead chickens with freshly plucked feathers showing goose bumped flesh. It reminds me of Frank Perdue. Yellow is the color of scarety cats and wimps. Yellow is a color that thinks it's white, but doesn't have the goods to get there. Yellow is white corrupted. It's tainted. It's someone with a bad liver problem. It's a color my body produces as an unwanted discharge. Here's a weird one: I don't think I look good in yellow, my wife thinks I do.
Wait. I do like yellow in one sense. I like banana's. They're yellow.
Zech, that's why I wasn't responding right away...I was being yellow.
Edited by - pomegranate on 27 October 2002 8:2:0
sorry, i don't have time to search the site right now.
this bloody french isp is rubbish, and i keep getting dropped when i try anything that takes more than 10 seconds.
has the society ever come up with any intelligent reasoning to counter the ages that carbon dating/science has given to various artifacts, i.e.
Ooooh. Talkorigens. What a surprise!!!
Sheesh...why don't you believe anything? Are you ALWAYS right? Everyone else is STOOOPID? At least, that's what y'all keep saying.
Want me to list a bunch of always atheist pals of yours?
i have received inquiries about how i was trained by spirit as a psychologist.
i was led to many sources of enlightenment.
books routinely was i led to that it was important i read.
Why this test is wrong. At least for me.
I will list my fav color I chose and the supposed explainations, with my COLOR commentary on my first choice. Maybe I'll do the other ones too later....Anyway, My favorite color is Violet/Purple.
1.
"preferred Violet indicates you are a people pleaser driven to influence by means of your great charm. You are suffering from the ill effects of sustained stress in your life. It also indicates the great likehood of some real or imagined childhood abuse. This type person is given to fantasy or daydreaming in which he can create a world that is more to his liking."
I'm about as charming as a viper. Well, if I was a car, I guess that would count. (I love Dodge Vipers) I am straight forward and often blunt, which is surely not a quality of charm. That's good and bad. I have no stress in my life. My greatest stress is probably hoping I pass my bowels OK in the morning. As far as childhood abuse goes, it is neither real or imagined in my life. Fantasy and daydreaming? I think that encompasses just about everyone, and if they have the power and will (whether theirs or Someone else's) to make the world around them more to their liking, surely they/I would do it. Nothing like making your dreams come true I always say. I like Violet/purple because it's, well, like a color I could bathe in. It has lovely depth. It is the color of my birthstone, as I was born in February. I am an artsy fartsy kinda guy, and designing and making jewelry is one of my artistic endeavors that I have been doing for many years. One of the most breathtaking stones I have seen is a piece of Amethyst from Africa. It was like looking into heaven. Though, Tanzanite, real gemy stuff, is on par with more blue with violet undertones.
Purple. It's royal. It's Kingly. It's Queenly. It's Stately. It's got something slightly Romantic to it. It's a Renaissance color that makes me feel Monet, Van Gogh and Renoit all at the same time.
