Posts by pomegranate

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Hi

by trybalance in

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i'm a first time poster.

i'm not a jw.

my wife has been a jw for 5 years now.

pomegranate

I go to the kingdom hall, dont believe the stuff

I call trybalance a grade "A" no questions asked HIGH FLYING HYPOCRITE by his own admission.

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What is the truth?

by sleepy in

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we spent so much time going on about "the truth" as witnesses , we thought we had the universe all sorted out .all those pillars of truth have now crumbled to dust.so what is "the truth"?.

that is , what is the correct understanding of life the universe and everything?.

how did the universe get here?what is conciousness and how does it work?is there a why or just a how?.

pomegranate

Cause and affect

For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction

Relativity rules

Edited by - pomegranate on 14 October 2002 9:42:42

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What is the truth?

by sleepy in

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we spent so much time going on about "the truth" as witnesses , we thought we had the universe all sorted out .all those pillars of truth have now crumbled to dust.so what is "the truth"?.

that is , what is the correct understanding of life the universe and everything?.

how did the universe get here?what is conciousness and how does it work?is there a why or just a how?.

Life-giving Knowledge? Please HELP!

by bound2fly2002 in

hello,am new at this so bear with me please.

i need any scriptures that any ex-witnesses can give to refute the idea of "knowledge leads to everlasting life".

need this asap before next meeting with them at my home.

pomegranate

I heard Porky Pig singing on a cartoon once. Who taught him?

Edited by - pomegranate on 14 October 2002 8:53:36

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What are your thoughts on writing DA letters?

by mamashel in

as most of you know, i have been inactive for about 2 1/2 yrs and completely out for about 7 months.

i am debating on wether or not to write a letter of da to the org or not.

in some ways i just want closure, and on the other hand i dont want to play by their rules.

pomegranate

In some ways i just want closure, and on the other hand i dont want to play by their rules.

I believe closure is a state of mind.

If you don't want to play by their rules, don't send a letter. I believe your actions will speak louder than any written words.

My husband is inactive, and just doesnt want to go any more. Says he wasnt cut out to be a JW. But there is still a part of him that believes it's true because he was raised as a jw.

He needs to study the other side, read guys like Ray Franz and gals like Diane Wilson.

He says if i want to write the letter he wont be upset, but i really dont know what to do. His family is ALL still in and i dont want them trying to make him misserable talking about me to him about it. He doesnt have much contact with them though.

In the end, it's up to you. I say, get on with the future and forget about the past as best you can. A DA letter is remembering the past, but it could very well be what is needed for you and your mate to get on with the future.

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What's Your Favorite Quote?

by Perry in

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i ran across this recently.

so, i guess its my new favorite quote.

"the difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.

pomegranate

"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suceed." - Curly Howard nyuk yuk nyuk

Edited by - pomegranate on 14 October 2002 8:41:9

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Hi

by trybalance in

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i'm a first time poster.

i'm not a jw.

my wife has been a jw for 5 years now.

pomegranate

trybalance said:

"I will say that once I told the people at the kingdom hall that I was not going to study or become a jehovahs witness they acted happy that I just came to the church with my wife. They all talk to me and I do play sofball with them from time to time."

So, why don't you explain the difference between you doing the above and STILL being accepted by them, and members doing it and being shunned, families torn apart and scorned. Sounds like their justice system is a bit warped doesn't it?

Since you have never become one, you have no clue about any of the real feelings on this forum. You are a man on the outside looking in, voicing your shallow viepoint "NEVER ACCEPTING JW's" as what they LYINGLY portray themselves to be, (God's only true organization on earth) and then YOU, being on the side of judgment have the gall to be questioning the reality of the pain and hurt that MANY if not ALL of these good folks on this forum have felt?

Since you've never accepted the bait (and never will according to your own words), you have never been a fish on their hook. Which means you have no sense of the pain. Any of it.

When you're like you, on the outside looking in, you STILL have a choice, and they STILL accept you.

When you're like us, who were on the inside looking out, you have NO CHOICES, and when you do freely choose, they WILL NOT accept you, they deny you even exist, and tear every thing down around you.

You have no clue, and I couldn't care less.

Edited by - pomegranate on 14 October 2002 8:25:17

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What's Your Favorite Quote?

by Perry in

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friends

i ran across this recently.

so, i guess its my new favorite quote.

"the difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.

pomegranate

"I'd turn back if I were you."

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51 years

by desertflower in

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today is my husband and my 51 anniversary.having a small party with some of our friends.

ex jw and worldly friends.

one daughter will be here.& one sent flowers.

pomegranate

Sheesh... I hope I make 51 years of age never mind 51 years married anniversary!!! Kewl

Congrats by the way!

Edited by - pomegranate on 13 October 2002 17:48:27

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Analyzing evolution through Laws of Probability

by pomegranate in

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any of you evolutionists ever crunch the numbers?

pomegranate

hydrogen, helium and small amounts of lithium formed shortly after the big bang. all other elements were created in suns.

Interesting. Where'd the humongous incomprehensible power source come from to Big Bang everything into existance? A cosmic match and dynomite? Kewl. Who lite the match and made the dynomite? Then you're going to tell me that out of this horrific cataclysmic blast, that the intricate movement of the rotational characteristics of solar systems, galaxies and and other interstellar bodies just happened with such predictable precision?

about evolution: first of all one should distinguish between the formation of the first self replicating system and then of what evolution is actually all about.

I do not understand what you just said.

evolution deals with the formation of new species from a common ancestor. there is an infinite number of facts that support this...therefore evolution is not in discussion.

Evolution deals with the start/origin of life from the minutest to the grandest. Which would mean the formation of what would be considered the first species, which would have to be at the molecular level.

how the first relicating system formed is not clear yet...some steps have been simulated in the lab but certainly not all.

I'm a pretty book bound kind of guy, show me the research you talk about regarding the above.

so what exactly would you like to calculate? the probability of the formation of a self replicating system?

The probability of one of the earliest building blocks of life (protein) spontaneously coming together by chance out of a primordial soup consisting of a the fluidic atomic components adhered together into amino acids consisting of both left and right handed variety, with left and right varieties being in number at equalibrium. What are the mathematical probabilities of these units forming the peptide bonds to make a single protein for the smallest theoretical model of a free living organism.

Edited by - pomegranate on 12 October 2002 13:10:52