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  Do you think that the hatred of the Catholic Church is Supernatural

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thinks so.. not only jws have hate the catholic church.

  i see it as a world wide thing.

  many hate the catholic church with out even truly looking into it for themselves, but rather form their opinion based on other peoples directions.. what say you?.

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  iwantoutnow

  Yes its so obvious that the 1.2 billion Catholics (the largest christian religion by oodles, the 1 in 7 people in the world) the religion that is practiced by all of central and south america) is hated by probably the Supernatural force of Pennywise the killer alien clown. Duh
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  Governing Body - Time in Ministry

  by Peeringin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any transparency in how many hours on the ministry the governing body members do on the ministry?

  by this i mean the physical act of going door to door in their area.

  i guess it is plausible that they would count overseas trips and working on publications as part of their ministry, but this is not what they encourage from the jw on the street.. is it possible for a gb member to be reproved or otherwise for not going out in service?

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  iwantoutnow

  Haaaaa, did you say Transparency? Haaaaaaaaa, good one!
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  16.000 JWs rebel against Bethel and GB

  by Edison Trent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some hot news:.

  last weekend was a convention in frankfurt, germany and 11 other locations.

  all were connected to the international convention in berlin.. in sum about 94.000 attended.

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  iwantoutnow

  Singing Kingdom songs, doesn't sound like being rebels.

  Guarantee you this will be held up as how much love the russians have for Jah, and how much support the germans have for their russian brothers and sisters. Which it probably is.

  Not like they all broke out to a chorus of Der Kommissar.
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  "Keith It is with Great Sadness that I write this Note!"

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i grew up with steve pare who is now an elder in southern california.

  he sent me this note after i talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.. "the super-abundant blessings i have received in the advancing the earthly organization of jehovah have been fantastic !!!".

  "jehovah is not behind in creating the paradise & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!!

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  iwantoutnow

  Its all bullshit that for decades I ate up like candy - because it was so much better than having to worry about being responsible myself.
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  What is the inside info on "Reasoning From the Scriptures?"

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i understand why the witnesses won't actually "reason" from the scriptures; because they will have to come to grips with the fact that others have their own reasons, scripture-based, for believing differently than the jw's.. the "reasoning" book was supposed to arm the r&f with solid scriptural backing that could withstand most in-depth conversations.

  so, why is it gathering dust now?

  was there some doctrinal issue specifically?.

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  iwantoutnow

  Also - "truth" changes SO OFTEN now - they cant keep reprinting them.
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  "Keith It is with Great Sadness that I write this Note!"

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i grew up with steve pare who is now an elder in southern california.

  he sent me this note after i talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.. "the super-abundant blessings i have received in the advancing the earthly organization of jehovah have been fantastic !!!".

  "jehovah is not behind in creating the paradise & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!!

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  iwantoutnow

  blondie - I know they have been using that figure at least since the 60's.

  No one uses that now. It's like putting out an Awake article out now, saying Jupiter has 12 moons.

  This really was a key to me waking up. I gave many District Convention talks, and because I really wanted to give the best talk possible, I researched all the references. Time and time again, I found they were distorting the message or the information the quote or reference came from. It happened enough for me to realize, they were doing this on purpose, and who ever was writing them knew exactly what they were doing.

  By the way - the argument they use for 20 billion being OK on the earth is also false and dishonest. Correlating land per person, has nothing to do with the resources needed to sustain a massive population. It doesn't consider the other 1000 factors involved. I dont know why they just dont fall back on "jehober will provide".
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  "Keith It is with Great Sadness that I write this Note!"

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i grew up with steve pare who is now an elder in southern california.

  he sent me this note after i talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.. "the super-abundant blessings i have received in the advancing the earthly organization of jehovah have been fantastic !!!".

  "jehovah is not behind in creating the paradise & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!!

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  iwantoutnow

  Blondie - yes the WT put it at 20 bill, but have used that number since from many decades ago.

  Notice they don't cite the source right?

  All modern estimates put it at 100 billion.

  Now why would the WT not update that number?
  

  Because almost any moron would know that the earth cant sustain 100 billion people, and then there would be a cascade of questions and dominos.
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  "Keith It is with Great Sadness that I write this Note!"

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i grew up with steve pare who is now an elder in southern california.

  he sent me this note after i talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.. "the super-abundant blessings i have received in the advancing the earthly organization of jehovah have been fantastic !!!".

  "jehovah is not behind in creating the paradise & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!!

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  iwantoutnow

  Beth Sarim - yup your right - it is 100 Billion.

  Thanks:)
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  "Keith It is with Great Sadness that I write this Note!"

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i grew up with steve pare who is now an elder in southern california.

  he sent me this note after i talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.. "the super-abundant blessings i have received in the advancing the earthly organization of jehovah have been fantastic !!!".

  "jehovah is not behind in creating the paradise & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!!

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  iwantoutnow

  By the way - its 100,000,000 who have died and would need resurrecting :)

  Where they F will they all live? And we would need like 20 earths to supply them.
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  Family drama... a personal share.

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys.

  i was an active member of this forum many years ago and it played an integral part of my awakening and making peace with my decision to leave.

  it’s been a while since i posted here.

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  iwantoutnow

  PDB - So sorry for what you are going through.
  Being in the cult spares no one.

  No one can help, but know that so many of us here know the pain that family and "friends" can inflict on us when we decide to leave the cult, or even just not go to meetings.

  Sorry again.