https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.
( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.
he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.
Yes the new light that this guy Br Winder is talking about is a real problem. Why would Jehovah have revealed false light in the first place?
There is a good chance that this new light 2023 they claim is from Jehovah will be updated with even more new light. That means Jehovah releases false light according to them?
why doesn’t rank and file see this?
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Could someone please post the letters everyone is talking about?
and what is the entire story behind them?
thanks
so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
Yes that argument about Abraham being too stupid to not enough new light would apply to the GB both last and present.
So about 150years of Governing body being too stupid to have this new light. This is what they are actually saying at the 2023 AGM.
Its not only insulting to Abraham but it’s very insulting to the old GB members who have died in recent decades.
Their explanation why so much old light was wrong was because Jehovah thought the brother were too stupid to have the correct light first time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.
( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.
he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.
A reasonable question would be was all the old light that has now been updated from Jehovah?
If there are current understandings that will be updated in the future then why did Jehovah update his people the wrong understandings?
https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).
number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
The Borg is definitely past peak in every metric. Bethel’s, Bethelites, literature published all way way down, if you saw it on a chart it would be crazy looking
next it will be pioneers, publishers, congregations, KHs. All these numbers in decline
if you need a laugh about jws, this comedy show is finally available outside the uk.
on roku or your streaming device.
https://www.cwtv.com/shows/everyone-else-burns/episode-1/?play=21dd96c6-83e2-4497-8fef-56897a78f455&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=google_kp_watch.
I love this series, it’s totally talking about JWs.
The young guy did fellowships did so interesting and then he falls in love with the young innocent JW girl.
The other girl in the congregation who has had sexual relations with most of the guys is actually very common these days and the elders have no idea
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Can someone post the pic here? I don’t have twitter
how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
Yep 40 year generation that would have been 1954. Even overlapping generations 1994. Three times overlapping 2034, so maybe ten years left😂
🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.
vidiot6 days ago.
notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.
What information is there about the facility in Argentina that the GB will supposedly retire to if things get too hot?
I know many billionaires are building doomsday bunkers as if something is coming.
Apparently London Chelmsford Bethel has a secret bunker that was built when they sent everyone home for a while and when the volunteers all came back the slabs were all finished with secret entrances
is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences?
given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?.
*even mainstream christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the holy spirit.
What about vaping the healthy way? Many health therapies involve vapours of essential oils and even cannabis
