I enjoyed reading this thread and would love to know how DPL's jouney has gone since starting it a year ago. Sounds like he might have read athiests book of bible stories... lol (saying that the bible is a fantasy book)
Posts by jemba
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by dontplaceliterature inbefore i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
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Faith without works is dead?
by jemba inmy crazy brainwashed parents have devoted their lives to this cult, to the detriment of their children.
i recently told my mum that i needed to stop anything jw because of the anxiety and depression it has caused me for over 30 years.
she said 'oh well if thats what you have to do... but you know armaggedon is just around the corner and jehovah expects us to toe the line... faith without works is dead.'.
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jemba
Thanks everyone for your great ideas. Yes Fernando I will be just asking questions not telling her the answers. .She wont know how to answer them. She will then go to Dad, the PO and he will have to also think about it. Cool....
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Disfellowshipped man tries to poison Elder and his family.
by jemba inthis story happened in my hometown in a hall i helped build years ago.
its no wonder this sort of thing happens, this guy was probably desperate and vunerable when he got df'd.
no pity for this stupid elder, but the poor kids.
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jemba
This story happened in my hometown in a hall I helped build years ago. Its no wonder this sort of thing happens, this guy was probably desperate and vunerable when he got DF'd. No pity for this stupid elder, but the poor kids. If he wanted to poison them properly you'd think hed come up with something better than weedkiller.
Once again sorry no live link- Mozilla firefox, it allows me to post but no cut n paste facilities.
http://www.news.com.au/national/church-leader-poisons-rival/story-e6frfkvr-1226288298232
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questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain
by thecrushed ineven before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
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jemba
I like your answers Flat accent!! Thanks
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If I spend spent as much time on (blank) as I did on JWN I'd be (blank)
by usualusername inplease fill in the following:.
if i spend spent as much time on (blank) as i did on jwn i'd be (blank).
if i spend spent as much time on (exercise) as i did on jwn i'd be (a world class triathelete).
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jemba
If I spent as much time on taking extra shifts at work as I did on JWN I could go on a long holiday this year.... I prefer JWN.
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Faith without works is dead?
by jemba inmy crazy brainwashed parents have devoted their lives to this cult, to the detriment of their children.
i recently told my mum that i needed to stop anything jw because of the anxiety and depression it has caused me for over 30 years.
she said 'oh well if thats what you have to do... but you know armaggedon is just around the corner and jehovah expects us to toe the line... faith without works is dead.'.
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jemba
My crazy brainwashed parents have devoted their lives to this cult, to the detriment of their children. I recently told my Mum that I needed to stop anything JW because of the anxiety and depression it has caused me for over 30 years. She said 'Oh well if thats what you have to do... but you know armaggedon is just around the corner and Jehovah expects us to toe the line... faith without works is dead.'
Out of respect I didnt argue with her that day as I did just drop a bombshell and I was staying in her home for their anniversary party, as I live a 40 drive away. Ive thought many times what I would loved to have said to her.
What would you have said?.. What scriptures and reasoning would counteract this kind of argument?.
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Don't know where to turn, Don't know who to trust
by BrotherPrince inno, not that prince, its just a username.
hey apostates, i've heard about these types of forums at meetings and such, never would've guessed it was called jehovahs-witness.net lol.
(excuse my shock, hope no one is offended).
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jemba
Welcome BrotherPrince,
I too was in the same place you are one year ago. I was a born in and most of my family are in so I worry about losing them if Im DF. I still believed many of the doctrines but was pushed away by nasty people and stupid unloving practices like DF, no Birthday celebrations and the hoops you have to jump through to make friends, very conditional love - they can turn it on and off like a tap.
It is actually very comforting to learn that God doesnt require you to be part of an organisation. These are not true christians by the way they treat others, homophobic,judgemental, xenophobic and mysogonistic etc.
It is so liberating to break free mentally as well as physically from them. I can truly say I have never felt this happy, free and no longer under a cloud of depression and anxiety because of guilt, fear and never feeling good enough.
Feel free to ask questions on this forum there are many good hearted and kind people here.
Thankyou for sharing your story Bro'... Im glad youre questioning things at a young age and not waiting till youre married in the Org with Kids and its so much more complicated.
Jemba
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UK convention dramas recorded by American actors - the GB's yearly gaffe
by cedars ini'm just curious as to whether any of my fellow brits ever pondered how the society can be so stupid as to insist using the us drama tapes at uk conventions rather than having them re-recorded in a british accent?.
as all of us brits know, the convention drama is a subject of subdued derision among uk publishers - and i've been to many a party or social gathering where, at some point, somebody whose had a little too much coke re-enacts a scene from a drama mockingly (typically by gesturing wildly into the air and saying "jer-ho-vah gaaard!!
" in an over-the-top american accent).. what the society clearly doesn't understand is that the dramas really lose their emotional impact with british audiences when performed in an american accent by amateurs.
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Azazel that was bloody hilarious mate!!
It would be far more entertaining in the traditional UK or Aussie languages.
Funny how us Aussies and Poms have a root (sex) and the US root for their team.
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questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain
by thecrushed ineven before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
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jemba
How is it that out of 100s of thousands of people in Noahs day the only ones deserving life just all happened to belong to the same family? Similarly today the JWs that are going to be saved exclusively at armageddon just happen to be mostly born-in and families. Wouldnt this mean they had some kind of advantage by birth to come to the 'right' religion.
Whenever a witless tried to understand this question they just couldnt get their head around what I was trying to say. Either dumb or didnt want to try and answer it.
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Do you guys think there will be a time when everyone will leave the JWs?
by FinchAndWeston inin 50 or so years when jws realize that the fds's promises were lies, would everyone just get up and leave?.
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jemba
But even the most inconsequential number of JWs left standing (like my parents) will just dust themselves off and keep preaching and teaching like nothing ever happened. All the while spouting crapology like 'the wide path to destruction, narrow road to everlasting life, easier to fit through the eye of a needle" etc. If they do decline rapidly that will be their def reasoning that "the end is upon us" and "the greater number has cooled off." Theyre so friggin brainwashed!