Hey Trismeg. you should start a new thread with that last paragraph you wrote with the DF questions.
Posts by jemba
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35Hardest most awkward parts of being mentally out but physically in
by BU2B ini am still physically in but am completely out mentally.. i was curious for those who spent some time in the borg while being mentally out or are still in that position, what is the worst, hardest or most awkward parts... for me i intensly dislike attending the meetings however its bearable as i can just let my mind wander, but field service is awful.
i cannot try to bring someone in to a group that i am trying to plot a way out of.
so now i try my best to either spend the day driving around to others fruitless rv's (we have somewhat rural territory) or eating out at an extended breakfast or if door to door cannot be avoided, i try to work alone and not ring bells.
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Greetings! My first post
by BU2B inhello all at jwn!
i have been a lurker here the last few months and have been going through the process of researching both sides of the story of jehovahs witnesses.
i was raised in the borg, got married and now have a young child.. my wife is very much dedicated to the organization and will justify anything the "slave" does putting it off on the borgs imperfection.
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jemba
Welcome BU2B, there is some awesome advice here. I will use some of it on my parents.
My 2 cents worth is that when my Hubby came home with some 'apostate' info regarding 607/1914 I felt SICK, SCARED & DEFENSIVE. He left it a few weeks and mentioned a few other things, it was so hard to hear. However we had both been having doubts for years and had already faded so I told his workmate to get us more info, my Husband was mentally out a few months before me but my initial reaction may be worth noting.
My Husband did the best thing by leaving me to think about his bombshell for a few weeks before the next round of 'apostate' info.
Go easy, baby steps.
Well done, I wish you all the best.
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Unexpected call from my JW Sister - Unbelievable Hypocrisy!
by chichimama_2 ini posted a long experience earlier today along with an email letter from my sister.
sent to me back in january informing me she was going to be shunning me.. had not heard a word from her for 6 months then.
my sister called out of the blue one evening last month.
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jemba
One of the signs of the times....'no natural affection'. The bible must have been talking about the dubs.
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Ultimately it is the child who should stop the abuse according to the GB!
by life is to short inon page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
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jemba
A 'sister' I grew up with was caught a few years ago by her 'worldly' husband sexually abusing her two sons.
The police found images of her little boys in graphic sexual scenes all over the internet. Luckily the kids were given full time to the father and she did a short stint in prison.
Unfortunately her best friend is my sister in law who is also a sexual predator - also raised a JW. My JW in laws have all rallied around my sis in law and her pedophile husband and wont believe that she is a pedophile even though she was arrested. So guess who gets to prowl around the assemblies checking out little boys? (Dont think she goes to meetings, just a few conventions to keep the mother happy)
How often do the witlesses look at women as pedophiles?
There is so much more info they could be putting in these stupid publications that the JWs hang on every word of.
The strongest most violent hate I have in my heart is for pedophiles, no kind of torture or violent painful death could ever be enough to satisfy my hate.
I havent even been abused, so I cant even imagine the pain of those poor victims. Especially when the stupid GB protect the scum.
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At my breaking point
by so confused inso it does not seem like im dealing very well.
its been 6 month since we have stopped going to the meeting.
embarssing in front of co-worker and my new supervisor.
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jemba
So sorry to hear about your painful time.
As others have stated...things will get better!
I too had post partum depression after both kids and the anxiety is enormous, every little thing is just so hard when you are depressed.
Hopefully the therapist can help you with the anxiety. If you do need 'happy pills', rest assured they can really help you through the impossibly hard times.
Sending you lots of energy and love.
Keep posting here if it makes you feel better, you can use us as a sounding board or just typing out your thoughts, it is therapy in itself.
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Is the FDS losing control?
by Hermano ini believe there is growing unrest amongst jws.
they may not be very cohesive or organized, but the rigorous demands for obedience coming from the leadership and the unbending, never ending list of rules, not to mention the end that has been ever so-close for so long yet never climaxes, has a lot of jws frustrated.. don't get me wrong.
i know there are some jws that will hang in there no matter what they're told to do and will obey without question.
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The young generations of dubs are no where near as respectful of the rules as past generations.
They are almost ALL leading double lives to some extent.
Some may pull up their socks and behave but I see many leaving for more 'selfish' pursuits.
I think the next decade will see a massive loss in those who are under 25.
I definetely see shrinkage but I too believe that people like my parents will NEVER leave no matter what.
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Is the FDS losing control?
by Hermano ini believe there is growing unrest amongst jws.
they may not be very cohesive or organized, but the rigorous demands for obedience coming from the leadership and the unbending, never ending list of rules, not to mention the end that has been ever so-close for so long yet never climaxes, has a lot of jws frustrated.. don't get me wrong.
i know there are some jws that will hang in there no matter what they're told to do and will obey without question.
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jemba
Yeah losing control of their bladders. Old bastards.
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jemba
Who gives you the right to break up families with shunning?
Who gives you the right to have blood transfusions refused for innocent children by trusting parents?...... NOT GOD!!!
You know you are wrong on so many things but too proud to admit it. You are a bunch of murdering, power hungry assholes who lie to get what you want.
I wish there was a HELL so you would all burn forever.
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untitled
by jemba ini often wonder what the borg would do if governments decided to end 'marraige'.
so you have the ceremony but there is no need for the legal bit.
i kinda think things are headed that way because defacto and same sex relationships already have the same legal rights.. marraige is open to abuse.
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jemba
Interesting BK, I never thought of that 'before god' thing. Yes they would probably go on as they did before.
True Dingo but everyone could still make money from the 'ceremony'. Everything could go an as it did before, except without the bit of paper.
I just imagine the JWs panicking because its not 'legal'.
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Vigils Held Around the Country for Young Couple Kristene and Mollie After Shooting
by AK MCGRATH inhttp://www.glaad.org/blog/vigils-held-around-country-young-couple-kristene-and-mollie-after-shooting.
i'm so upset by this right now, all i can think to do is to link what i just wrote on my fb page about it:.
"this kind of hatred has got to be stopped people!
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jemba
What a huge step backwards for Gay rights if this is a targeted attack.
Why are people so threatened by someone who is not mainstream, white and heterosexual?
I feel so sad for the families of these girls, they deserve all the media attention in the world, what a terrible waste of young life.