JoenB75

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  Are JWs Enjoying Not Having To Go To Meetings and House To House?

  by minimus in

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  since this pandemic, especially, are witnesses fine with never having to go to another meeting or assembly again?

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  JoenB75

  I have heard they save on shoes as you cant see those on zoom
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  Just another failed prophecy ...

  by EdenOne in

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  so, i was going through some consolation magazines of 1939, and found this absolute prediction by rutherford:.

  only 8 years later .....

  oooooopssss......!!.

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  JoenB75

  Actually, Romans 11:25-27 suggests they will be regathered at the end as the conclusion upon the restoration. But it surely does not speak about Zionist Christ rejecting rogue state created in 1948 who is pretty mean to the muslims, although we dont like them either
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  What’s Wrong With President Biden?

  by minimus in

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  i just watched excerpts from his cnn town hall event and something is seriously wrong with him.

  he can’t put together a sentence without getting lost, tripping on his own words, forgetting what he is talking about.……this is embarrassing.

  and it’s not because he has a stutter!

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  JoenB75

  I dont know US story going back to the beginning, but he seems like the most senile president ever. Clearly he has a host of people behind the scene helping him get dressed, giving him milk and cookies and telling him what to say to the press. These days people truly get what they are asking for .
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  What is it with these lard ass GB and gold rings and watches?

  by mickbobcat in

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  they wear jewelry like they are some don from the cosa nostra.

  watches and rings like some cheap pimp.

  hey they are cheap pimps.

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  JoenB75

  It reminds me of a family story. My grandmother, an old frail mean lady with a hard life behind her, was taken to some Bethel building and she was furious of all the luxury and comforts considering Armegeddon was right around the corner
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  Do You Support Cubans Protesting Against Communism?

  by minimus in

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  some people have thrown their support for the government while others show support for the rebels.

  what’s your opinion?.

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  JoenB75

  They should protest peacefully and also warm the US people about communism, a cancer to the body of any country.
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  “Joshua” and “Jesus” are the same Greek and Hebrew/Aramaic name: is this not confusing?

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  god’s name disappeared in the christian greek scriptures and its pronunciation got lost in the hebrew-aramaic ones.

  the current vowels of the hebrew pronunciation of god’s name are taken from the “adonay” (“lord”) hebrew word which were the vowels chosen by who did not want to pronounce his name.

  whereas the current latin pronunciation of god’s name (“jehovah”) was introduced by raymundus martini, a spanish monk of the dominican order, in his book published in 1270 c.e.

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  JoenB75

  Well they did both salvation for his people. I guess context tells the Hebrews translators that when the ref is "Joshua" and when it is "Jesus".
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  KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most churches are back to in-person worship.

  not jehovah's witnesses.

  is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?

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  JoenB75

  Road to nowhere,

  Ok. I admit I was guessing and drawing on my knowledge of how things were 20 years ago. I know some folks who gave significant amounts to the org before leaving this world
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  Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck,,,,do you care about them?

  by minimus in

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  i’m sick and tired of seeing pictures and articles about their rekindled romance.

  who cares???

  do you enjoy seeing news articles about celebrity daters?.

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  JoenB75

  Jlo is just (still) Jenny from the block
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  KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most churches are back to in-person worship.

  not jehovah's witnesses.

  is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?

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  JoenB75

  I must say the covid circus has really taken its toll on JW org. They probably noticed that you can do with religion without knocking doors. I imagine the elders do special visits on the needy, especially as I recall elderly lonely folks with money
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  "Resurrection" or "Re-Creation of The Soul"? What do really JW's teach?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  interesting find through a book "inside story of jehovah's witnesses" (1967) by w.c. stevenson, supposedly a former jw circuit overseer.

  it's an interesting "apostate" perspective written prior to the wts 1975 debacle.. anyway, at a certain point, there's a quote from a book called "the four cults", by professor anthony a. hoekema (1963, william b. eerdmans publishing company), a calvinist, which makes some sharp remarks about the way jehovah's witnesses teach the dead coming back to life:.

  1) in the case of those "resurrecting" for everlasting life on earth, one asks: if the soul is extinct at death, and the body disintegrates and its components are integrated into other forms of life, what is there to "resurrect"?

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  JoenB75

  I think William Barclay expresses the proper biblical view, at least the one expressed in 1 Corinthians 15. It is actually quite close to the JW view although they can not use 1 Corinthians 15 for those not of the "144.000":

  "For the Greek immortality lay precisely in getting rid of the body. For him the resurrection of the body was unthinkable. Personal immortality did not really exist because that which gave men life was absorbed again in God the source of all life.

  (iv) Paul's view was quite different. If we begin with one immense fact, the rest will become clear. The Christian belief is that after death individuality will survive, that you will still be you and I will still be I. Beside that we have to set another immense fact. To the Greek the body could not be consecrated. It was matter, the source of all evil, the prison-house of the soul. But to the Christian the body is not evil. Jesus, the Son of God, has taken this human body upon him and therefore it is not contemptible because it has been inhabited by God. To the Christian, therefore the life to come involves the total man, body and soul.

  Now it is easy to misinterpret and to caricature the doctrine of the resurrection of the body. Celsus, who lived about A.D. 220, a bitter opponent of Christianity, did this very thing long ago. How can those who have died rise with their identical bodies? he demands. "Really it is the hope of worms! For what soul of a man would any longer wish for a body that had rotted?" It is easy to cite the case of a person smashed up in an accident or dying of cancer.

  But Paul never said that we would rise with the body with which we died. He insisted that we would have a spiritual body. What he really meant was that a man's personality would survive. It is almost impossible to conceive of personality without a body, because it is through the body that the personality expresses itself. What Paul is contending for is that after death the individual remains. He did not inherit the Greek contempt of the body but believed in the resurrection of the whole man. He will still be himself; he will survive as a person. That is what Paul means by the resurrection of the body. Everything of the body and of the soul that is necessary to make a man a person will survive, but, at the same time, all things will be new, and body and spirit will alike be very different from earthly things, for they will alike be divine.

  https://www.dannychesnut.com/Bible/Barclay/First%20and%20Second%20Corinthians.htm