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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  "Dan Clark is saying on SixSreens that its like they are closing shop,,maybe going out of business.

  Not the exact words,,,but along those lines."

  Given that the door to door work is their business, that's not a difficult conclusion to come to.
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  RonW. "If I was still a regular pioneer getting 90 hours a month in and I heard this I would have thought 'What is the bloody point of flogging my guts out when the rank and file can report miniscule ministry.'🤷‍♀️"

  Perhaps they can start giving real recognition and appreciation to pioneers. Actually rewarding people who put in the effort.

  BTW, how much drain-cleaner had Rutherford drunk to come up with "pioneer" as a class? It's reminiscent of Amway's Diamond Ambassador level.
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  NotFormer

  Pontoon: "Right or wrong, good or bad, the organization is an empty shell compared to what it used to be."

  It's like they're just giving up.
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  Breaking news - no more reporting

  by wannaexit in

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  i didint search to see if its been talked about.

  big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.

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  NotFormer

  Do you have a link or some sort of reference for this?
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  2. friends

  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  LongHairGal: Sad that so many died believing the "soon!" promise. 😢 I'd be pretty angry too, at such a flippant dismissal of such a gut wrenching situation! And this is a great example of the sort of thing I'm asking about: they are completely tone deaf to what they are really saying.
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  NotFormer

  Ding: that's going back about 30 years for my anecdote, and these ladies were a bit on the elderly side, so they were probably around when that was circulating and your elder picked up on it.

  Here's a WT anecdote that seems to reference it: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1986005?q=brainwashed&p=doc It already seemed to be a meme at this point. I remember thinking that the term was pretty old-fashioned; something that you're more likely to see come up in an old episode of The Man From UNCLE.
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  NotFormer

  Sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.

  Years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company Fisher and Paykel. They showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them. One customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down. The bloke running the survey was really agreeable to that proposition. I don't know how they wanted it to come across, but all I heard was "Our stuff breaks down!" 😱 I don't know where their marketing people studied, but I wouldn't!

  As for JWs: some JW ladies once said something like "People tell us we're brainwashed, but we tell them that we've had our brains washed clean by the Truth!" I'm pretty sure I didn't hear what she thought she was telling me...

  What are some good examples of things JWs say and the WT writes that don't actually say what they think they are saying?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.

  if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?

  would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.

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  LongHairGal: You walked safely away, didn't you? That tattoo must have been very discreet!

  EasyPrompt: He smoked? 😱

  Morley: That seems to be a recurring theme in this thread; it depends on your Kingdom Hall and how discreet you are about it.
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  Cult or High Control Group?

  by MillennialDawn in

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  i see this phrase a lot: "the indication of a cult is what happens when you leave.

  " i'm not sure where that originated, but it is a faulty categorization.

  "cult" is almost always used in a derogatory way.

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  NotFormer

  I remember reading WT literature about disfellowshipping and they basically say that, due to the laws of the land, they can't order people to be stoned and you can really sense the unwritten feeling of regret about that.

  The Great Drunk, Rutherford, used to have security armed with pickaxe handles patrolling his conventions. They're not above using violence to obtain their desired ends.
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  JWs and Conscription/ Military Service

  by NotFormer in

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  matthew 5:41 (nwt) "...and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile,* go with him two miles.".

  a member of the roman occupying forces could command a local to carry their pack for a mile.

  the local was thus pressed into a form of military service.

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  NotFormer

  The WT hypocrisy in this matter is that they concede "legitimate service" and yet they sent thousands of people to prison by refusing "civilian service in lieu".