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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

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  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  NotFormer

  In the 90s I had a conversation with a girl who had been born in 1975. Her mother's sister (a JW) used to point at the mother's baby bump and say something like "That baby's never going to be born". Presumably meaning "Armageddon's imminent and you're going to die!"

  Apparently it was the family joke from then on that that girl was "the baby who was never going to be born".

  Rattigan, the JWs totally believed that stuff, and it wasn't people"running ahead of Jehovah "; they were being told this from platforms around the world (this happened in Australia).

  Edited to clarify: She was probably due in 1976 (she was 18 in 1994), hence the "will never be born") thing, the pregnancy being during 1975.
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  Did Anyone Have Fun With Their Field Service Reports?

  by NotFormer in

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  now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.

  did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.

  also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.

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  Would someone have words with you if you turned in a report with something written down the bottom like "I'm claiming 123 XYZ Street for after Armageddon"?
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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

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  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  NotFormer

  "Since when?"

  Lying liars gonna lie!
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  Political Correctness and Censorship / Banning Books

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  banned books?censorship?.

  let’s say you live in a land where the rule is: you can’t offend anyone.okay, fair enough.

  let’s take a look at what follows (implicit in this rule).. if you are speaking to 10 people, is it okay to offend 1 in 10?

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  NotFormer

  LoveUniHateExams: "There are plenty of classic films of the 70s and 80s that wouldn't get made today because someone, somewhere, would find it 'problematic' (Jesus, I hate that word)."

  Try making Blazing Saddles today! Mel Brooks has said as much.
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  Rattigan: good point!
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  Sue, one anecdote that I'm pretty sure I've read here is when the householder says "I'm sorry, but I'm a Methodist!", the JW will quip "I'm sorry you're a Methodist, too!"
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  NotFormer

  It should be scriptural because they always warn against "going beyond what is written".
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  Did Anyone Have Fun With Their Field Service Reports?

  by NotFormer in

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  2. friends

  now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.

  did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.

  also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.

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  NotFormer

  Meanmrmustard, I remember people saying that when they were out in field service, they would pick out what houses they would occupy when the owners were slain at Armageddon. That could have passed for "fun" in Dubdom.
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  Hailstones (2)

  by NotFormer in

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  with the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.

  can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.

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  NotFormer

  Absolutely Diogenesister, the two stances look mutually exclusive to me

  Beth Sarim, they theoretically could walk it back under new "new light" 🙄, but I imagine that every time there's new light, they lose some hangers on that have just grown tired of it all. New light that returns to the old hardline position after this "kinder, gentler" change might be too much for a lot of people.
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  Hailstones (2)

  by NotFormer in

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  with the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.

  can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.

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  NotFormer

  Yes, I think that the point is not the legitimacy of their hailstones interpretation, but what they currently believe about it. And within that belief, the recent announcements seem to preclude that "hailstones message" from ever happening. The GB have basically painted themselves into a corner on this one.