Posts by NotFormer

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Six minute video of WTBT$ begging for money, now on JWBorg website

by EasyPrompt in

six minute video of wtbt$ begging for money, now on jwborg website.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/accomplishministry/pub-mwbv_202311_1_video.

"thank you for 'setting something aside'" robert butler.

New brochure Make Disciples was it worth the suspense?

by Tahoe in

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courtesy of reddit.

NotFormer

Carminante: "No they are not lightening up. I believe that the idea of the cover picture is about the diversity of people in the territory to whom the publishers are preaching."

If that's the"before" picture, what does the "after" picture look like? 🤔

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Bribing the children to serve--by request!

by Atlantis in

bribing the children to serve--by request!

request from researcher: is it true that children in the early years of the watchtower society, were bribed into the field ministry work to make a profit to have money to spend?

if this is true, would you know where i could find that information?

Fascinating! 🖖 Child labour built into the system and even provided for in the early literature! At least in the early days they allowed for the kids to get some compensation for their services. When did the articles start coming out that children were to be as much labourers for the kingdom as the adults? I assume the hardline stuff about forcing kids into service would be Rutherford era. Were kids expected to lug phonographs around everywhere?

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Why do Catholics pray to Mary/saints?

by BoogerMan in

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a very good friend of many years told me that he prays to mary and makes requests.

i didn't try to discuss/debate the subject - his choice - but wondered how catholics would view these scriptures: .

(john 14:6) jesus answered, “i am the way and the truth and the life.

NotFormer

The Catholic saints simply subsumed the roles of the pagan gods that preceded them. For example St. Eligius took over the role of Vulcan/Hephaistos from the pagan pantheon. Just as objects, jobs and classes of people had patron gods, they now have patron saints. Just "venerate" (worship) your patron saint and you'll be fine! 🙄

A lot of "saints" weren't even real historical people. There's the above example of St Brigid. And of course, St Christopher.

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Sparlock Toy

by NotFormer in

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i wasn't around when the sparlock thing hit about 11 years ago, but it became such a meme that that debacle still gets mentioned from time to time.

one thing that came up in conversations of the time was about how dumb the name was; that someone in bethel could have come up with a less lame name.

i think that that bethelite was trying to be clever by using "warlock" as the stem and dropping the "w".

NotFormer

I didn't think of sparring. That's a pretty good interpretation. And yes, pretty clever, as you say.

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Steve Lett doesn’t look well

by Teddnzo in

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as soon as you see steve letts talk at the agm you think to yourself “oh my, what’s happened to him?.

his hand has plasters and his skin doesn’t look healthy, like he has inflammation or something serious going on.. he had put on weight and is all bloated and puffy .

his skin really doesn’t look good, the kind of inflammation many people notice after the experimental covid vaccines.. there have been very high numbers of people reported inflammation after the experimental covid vaccines.

NotFormer

Vidiot, from what I've read here so far, most exes have very low opinions of the GB and their competence and capabilities as managers of both the business and the religion. Do you think that the GB may be the ultimate expression of the Peter Principle? How many people exist at lower levels at Bethel who would be better at the job than the current GB?

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Steve Lett doesn’t look well

by Teddnzo in

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as soon as you see steve letts talk at the agm you think to yourself “oh my, what’s happened to him?.

his hand has plasters and his skin doesn’t look healthy, like he has inflammation or something serious going on.. he had put on weight and is all bloated and puffy .

his skin really doesn’t look good, the kind of inflammation many people notice after the experimental covid vaccines.. there have been very high numbers of people reported inflammation after the experimental covid vaccines.

NotFormer

SadElder, do you think that the GB members allow themselves to be wined and dined by approved members of the lower classes? Being taken to dinner by wealthy JWs would be a very innocent looking form of Simony, and being shouted (treated) to NY's finest dining establishments would certainly beat even the GB's standard Bethel fare.

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Can the Watchtower Society survive without time reports?

by DT in

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there has already been much discussion about how the watchtower society has declared in australia that going door to door is part of a personal ministry.

this seems to be a lame attempt to avoid liability considering that they require time reports and have formal meetings for field service at the kingdom hall.. this is a bit of a dilemma.

reporting time and formal meetings for field service are important methods of control, however it's not clear if the organization is willing or able to handle the potential liability that may come from this.. imagine what would happen if they lost these methods of control.

NotFormer

Don't be obtuse; "The Society" used to be shorthand for all things related to the WT and JWs. And don't pretend that the local congregations don't do everything they're told to by Bethel.

Changing the way a few "I"s are dotted and how a few "t"s are crossed on legal documents doesn't change the nature of the beast.

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