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  The Blood Policy

  by NotFormer in

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  2. medical

  a couple of decades ago, any question of the wt dropping or changing the blood policy was met with something along the lines of "they're in too deep, they've killed too many people, the lawsuits would kill them; they can't change it".

  a somewhat warped version of the "sunk costs fallacy".. they're already in very deep with the other rod for their own back, the csa payouts.

  and some small changes have occurred in the way they handle csa cases.

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  NotFormer

  It's when you realise that the HLC exists that you begin to understand that the WT made the decision to move from being just a high control group, to being out and out sociopaths/psychopaths. At least they aren't just "sending the boys around" anymore. 🙄
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  Literature Carts

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  whenever i see a photo of a literature cart, they all look the same to me.

  are they a standard design?

  who makes them?

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  Thanks, that pretty well answers all my questions. On the one hand I'm surprised that individual JWs don't own them for bragging rights, but on the other hand, I'm not surprised that they are owned by congregations, as that creates another "privilege" that can be handed out.

  Does Bethel get a cut from the company that sells these things?
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  Literature Carts

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  whenever i see a photo of a literature cart, they all look the same to me.

  are they a standard design?

  who makes them?

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  NotFormer

  Whenever I see a photo of a literature cart, they all look the same to me. Are they a standard design? Who makes them? Does the WT sell them? If they do, do they sell them to Kingdom Halls or individuals? Are they different in different countries? Are they just bought off the rack at hardware or office supplies places?

  It may seem a bit of a trivial thing to be asking about, but getting a cut from something that JWs are required to have has been the WT's modus operandi in other areas. Something needs to be purchased for use by many JWs around the world for their kingdom service. Does the WT get a piece of the action?
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  Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York - Balance Sheets

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  can anyone reveal the "mothership's" income/expenditure stats for any recent year?.

  in the uk, charities must be transparent and publish their annual financial information, but in the u.s. it's not so clear..

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  NotFormer

  I always wondered why they didn't just cave and pay sales tax on the magazines back in the 90s. They could still be in the magazine business to this day, if they had.

  Is there a deep aversion to paying tax, written in their very DNA, tracing back to Rutherford?
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  Governing body

  by moley in

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  2. scandals

  are the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .

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  NotFormer

  "Everything bad you hear about us is false! Even the stuff that’s true!”

  Reminds me of Deep Space Nine

  Garak: Everything I've told you is true

  Bashir: Even the lies?

  Garak: Especially the lies!
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  The Blood Policy

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a couple of decades ago, any question of the wt dropping or changing the blood policy was met with something along the lines of "they're in too deep, they've killed too many people, the lawsuits would kill them; they can't change it".

  a somewhat warped version of the "sunk costs fallacy".. they're already in very deep with the other rod for their own back, the csa payouts.

  and some small changes have occurred in the way they handle csa cases.

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  NotFormer

  Interesting. Does the hospital liaison committee still exist?
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  Lawyers release survey on alleged Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  by Tahoe in

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  2. child-abuse

  a team of lawyers has released the results of its survey on alleged child abuse by members of the jehovah's witnesses religious group in japan.. the team held a news conference in tokyo on monday.

  it provides legal support to former members of the group as well as to children of its members.. the lawyers conducted the survey, following the publishing of the health and welfare ministry guidelines last year about child abuse related to parents' religious beliefs.

  a total of 560 people responded.. the survey shows 81 percent of the respondents said they had cards indicating they desired to refuse blood transfusions.. the ministry's guidelines state that parents' refusal of medical treatments for children on religious grounds amounts to neglect --- a form of abuse.. the lawyers said investigations are necessary to find how many people died from refusing blood transfusions, and how many of them were children.. the survey also shows 92 percent of the respondents experienced whipping, 96 percent were banned from school activities, and 93 percent were forced to limit their human relations.. the lawyers said many of the children experienced physical and mental abuse, which afterward led to problems such as loneliness, sense of alienation and a lack of self-esteem.

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  Balaamsass2, I asked on another thread a few months ago about the blood card. I had memories from years ago of people discussing incidents where the blood cards ♦️ were checked by visiting officials, probably COs, to make sure that they were current and being carried on the person of the various JWs. Do you remember any such enforcement measures being taken? I was under the impression that it was an annual event.
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  Lawyers release survey on alleged Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a team of lawyers has released the results of its survey on alleged child abuse by members of the jehovah's witnesses religious group in japan.. the team held a news conference in tokyo on monday.

  it provides legal support to former members of the group as well as to children of its members.. the lawyers conducted the survey, following the publishing of the health and welfare ministry guidelines last year about child abuse related to parents' religious beliefs.

  a total of 560 people responded.. the survey shows 81 percent of the respondents said they had cards indicating they desired to refuse blood transfusions.. the ministry's guidelines state that parents' refusal of medical treatments for children on religious grounds amounts to neglect --- a form of abuse.. the lawyers said investigations are necessary to find how many people died from refusing blood transfusions, and how many of them were children.. the survey also shows 92 percent of the respondents experienced whipping, 96 percent were banned from school activities, and 93 percent were forced to limit their human relations.. the lawyers said many of the children experienced physical and mental abuse, which afterward led to problems such as loneliness, sense of alienation and a lack of self-esteem.

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  They'd better get some new light fast, on the issues of how to treat CSA cases, blood transfusions and the shunning of children.

  Does anyone remember when the Japan branch was the WT's golden boy, the example held up to the rest of the JW world?
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  Rape you need 2 witnesses and don't call the cops! Crazy!

  by Witness 007 in

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  are we a cult?

  well the "truth" tells us that a old jewish 2 witness rule means any rape or paedophile is free to rape in our organisation.

  in no circumstances would there be a second witness.

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  NotFormer

  JWs should just call the police. The elders and the organisation have no dog in that fight.
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  The Blood Policy

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a couple of decades ago, any question of the wt dropping or changing the blood policy was met with something along the lines of "they're in too deep, they've killed too many people, the lawsuits would kill them; they can't change it".

  a somewhat warped version of the "sunk costs fallacy".. they're already in very deep with the other rod for their own back, the csa payouts.

  and some small changes have occurred in the way they handle csa cases.

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  NotFormer

  A couple of decades ago, any question of the WT dropping or changing the blood policy was met with something along the lines of "they're in too deep, they've killed too many people, the lawsuits would kill them; they can't change it". A somewhat warped version of the "sunk costs fallacy".

  They're already in very deep with the other rod for their own back, the CSA payouts. And some small changes have occurred in the way they handle CSA cases. While officially, they admit no culpability, they would rather payoff the plaintiffs than fight in court. They don't seem to have the stomach to fight against "the World" the way they once prided themselves on.

  The recent Japanese articles about the legal team's survey about the abuse of children in the organisation refer to the deaths of children who refused blood at the behest of the WT. Is there a chance that interest by yet another government is going to create pressure on them in the area of blood?