Posts by NotFormer

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Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

by raymond frantz in

https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

NotFormer

"Even then, Lopes added, Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t force members to limit or cease association with former congregants, whether they’ve been disfellowshipped or withdrawn voluntarily—that’s up to individuals.

“Congregation elders do not police the personal lives of congregants, nor do they exercise control over the faith of individual Jehovah’s Witnesses,”

The level of dishonesty here is breathtaking. Remind me again Mr. Lopes: who is the Father of Lies?

"In an email to RNS, Jehovah’s Witnesses spokesperson Jarrod Lopes said Witnesses only disfellowship an unrepentant member who “makes a practice” of serious violations of “the Bible’s moral code."

We're talking about children, not unrepentant monsters!

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Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

by NotFormer in

my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

NotFormer

I actually wrote WWI for the league of nations, but it seems my idiot tablet autocorrected it! 😠

ExBethelitenowPIMA, if the league of nations was formed in 1919, then that would be an interesting counterpoint to their love of that date. But I just looked it up, League of Nations was formed in 1920, presumably after Satan knew his time was short with the appointment of the FDS! 🙄🤮

Man, the ego on Rutherford!

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Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

by NotFormer in

my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

NotFormer

My understanding* is that the UN is supposed to be the wild beast of Revelation. The UN only came into being after WWII, so what was the beast before the new light came about? I can't see a speculative organisation like the WT not having an interpretation of the beast before the UN came into being. Even if it was the League of Nations, that came into being after WWII. What was Russell's take on the beast?

*Subject to loving correction, of course! 😸

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JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

by enoughisenough in

jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

he made a pretty good case.

NotFormer

Rattigan350: "Witnesses can do what they want as for charities"

Yes I'm sure they say that, just the same way that they justify their stinginess over birthdays and Christmas by saying that they don't need special days to give people stuff, and then they don't give anybody anything 😔.

The fact is that in JW eyes most charities are aligned with Babylon the Grape, or the Beast, so wouldn't give to them so they don't share in their guilt. Could you honestly see a Dub giving to the Salvation Army's winter appeal? 🙄

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Depression & Isolation

by TxNVSue2023 in

i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

NotFormer

Well Sue, it's nice to see you back. It's kind of sad that the only people you feel comfortable talking about your problems with are those that your new/renewed friends would probably see as "enemies of Jehovah God". I hope you find the healing you need.

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Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

NotFormer

So much for them denying that they ever said "Thus sayeth The LORD". (they didn't have their own specially worded edition back then)

"He says the requirements for special pioneers shall be 175 hours and 50 back-calls per month, which should develop into a reasonable number of studies; and for regular pioneers 150 hours and as many back-calls and studies as can be properly developed during that time. And for company publishers he says, ‘Let us make a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’" This seems like they're treating it as a direct quote by Jehovah, although they've muddied it a bit by mentioning His King.

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The Organization v Christendom!

by BoogerMan in

the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

NotFormer

Vidiot, true dat! 😳

enoughisenough, the lack of self awareness is palpable. Didn't Rutherford's mother ever tell him the one about "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?

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The home of APOSTASY - the type/antitype!

by BoogerMan in

it-1 p. 296 bethel - "bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.

".

NotFormer

I'm a bit agnostic on whether or not WT shares certain similarities with Freemasonry, but I'll keep an open mind. There is that quote by a masonry guy about Russell, but would you believe anything a secret society says about its membership? 🤔🎩🧐

As for Bethel being WT headquarters, I wouldn't be surprised to find Jahbulon somewhere in the literature 🙄. (Just being sarcastic) 😹

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The home of APOSTASY - the type/antitype!

by BoogerMan in

it-1 p. 296 bethel - "bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.

".

NotFormer

This is another head scratcher for me. Why on earth did they choose the name of the city that represented false religion in the Bible?

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The Organization v Christendom!

by BoogerMan in

the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

NotFormer

Their tone-deafness has never ceased to amaze me. 😳 For every finger that they point, there are always several pointing back towards them.

Have they ever done a hit piece on the RC church, pointing out the cruelty of excommunication? 🙄