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  Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

  as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

  attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

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  NotFormer

  "If this was true, it's very likely the ex JW that brought the case to court would have felt any need to."

  Excellent point.
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  Super Duper Awkward

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did anyone else find the teen section on the meeting tonight massively cringeworthy?

  i saw two kids who will be laughing stocks for life after their world wide exposure.

  complete exploitation in my opinion, unforgivable..

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  NotFormer

  "The powers-that-be always seem to forget that the moment you use shady methods in your attempt to claim the moral high ground…

  "…you forfeit the moral high ground."

  When you start using the bad guy's methods, you become the bad guy*

  *Quote from Tolkien... maybe...
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  "Everyone Wants To Leave"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.

  his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.

  it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?

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  NotFormer

  A thread about Steve Hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up. His Wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.

  While it is generally believed that there are a lot of PIMOs still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the WT, I doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out. It's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.

  What do you think? Do all JWs secretly, deep-down, subconsciously want to leave the organisation?

  *This is me heavily paraphrasing, not quoting.
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  I think I know what the GB is doing

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  read:.

  but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards.

  hmm... let's see is anyone on the governing body a strict master and a drunkard?

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  NotFormer

  "I think I know what the GB is doing"

  I bet they wish they knew what they're doing...
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  I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you read this correctly.

  as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

  i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

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  NotFormer

  "It’s all shits and giggles…

  "…until someone giggles and shits."

  You need to hang out with a different crowd! 😳😱
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  Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

  as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

  attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

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  NotFormer

  "I’ve said this many a time, and no doubt a few have tried. That Id love to see that arse, or ass, lose his license to practice. Id dear say he must of received a lot of hate mail after that. Can anybody tell me if he’s a JW. I believe he is a secular lawyer."

  Who is he? Being a barrister, he's basically only following the lines he's been instructed to. I imagine he got a good night's sleep that night. It's no skin off his nose that his client's instructions were a pack of lies. 🙄
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  NotFormer

  If a householder says "Sorry, I'm a Baptist", is a JW still allowed to say: "I'm sorry you're a Baptist too!"?
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  Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

  as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

  attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

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  NotFormer

  Their own doctrine says that lying is okay. So why would they consider themselves bound by any oath they've made?
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  'Socky' - April 2024 broadcast

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watched a revision of this broadcast on youtube.

  im not sure ive ever seen a more cringe-worthy exchange than between david splane and his good buddy 'socky'.. socky told us the story that he read the book 'what has religion done for mankind?

  ' (1951) when he was 10 and he 'knew' it was the truth.

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  NotFormer

  I really must ask that you put this stuff down where us uninitiated can understand it. A link would be useful.

  I seriously thought that "Socky" was some sort of puppet!😱🙄 I found the video on YouTube, so I now know what's going on.

  BTW, is it only me that would love to see a senior GB member interacting with a sock puppet* to explain deep biblical truths?

  *Yes, I know that sock puppet is an obvious analogy for Socky himself, but I don't always like to go for the low hanging fruit 🍑.
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  Super Duper Awkward

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did anyone else find the teen section on the meeting tonight massively cringeworthy?

  i saw two kids who will be laughing stocks for life after their world wide exposure.

  complete exploitation in my opinion, unforgivable..

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  NotFormer

  "...I have to run out of the classroom, just like Joseph did because of Potipha's wife ...".

  What the heck was going on in those classrooms?? And what sexually repressed teenaged kid wouldn't be trying to find out how to transfer to that school??