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  Will Governing Body follow through with New Zealand Royal Commission's recommendation to publicly apologize?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.

  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.

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  NotFormer

  3rdgen: "WTC is never going to help victims collect $$$ no matter how egregious their agent's conduct"

  The conduct of those agents has seemingly had their tacit/implied/inferred approval anyway. Jaracz made it so.
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  Will Governing Body follow through with New Zealand Royal Commission's recommendation to publicly apologize?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.

  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.

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  NotFormer

  The NZ government will insist that the GB apologise. The American GB refuses to apologize. Stalemate.

  But seriously, slimboyfat is right with: "It looks like a case of: we claim all the authority, but accept none of the responsibility". They'll never relinquish their self-perceived moral authority, and an apology would do just that.

  Threatening their status as a religion and also their charitable status might work, but, their pride is too great. NZ is a small outlier of their empire. They might just take the L and let go of the small number of assets they still have there. They've moved that operation to Sydney*, anyway.

  *Denham Court, actually, according to the company registration data on the ASIC database.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses "Declare the Good News" around the World this week. JW Child abuse PAGE ONE on Google news!

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  7/28/2024 sunday, despite dozens of watchtower official press releases attempting to swamp google seo, new zealand child abuse outrages climb to page one for "jehovah" news results.. ".

  former jehovah's witnesses welcome inquiry's findings of 'credible evidence' of abuse.

  8:07 am on 27 july 2024".

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  NotFormer

  I thought https://www.scoop.co.nz/ might have more on the subject, but they only show a couple of the recent articles from the mainstream news that have already been linked to on this site.
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  GB making their exit before the GT??

  by stephenlettclownface in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.

  did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.

  if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.

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  "We always talked about the bus all the GB were on to visit the farm and getting hit by a train then "poof" into the pearly gates and here we go GT!"

  I imagine that it is policy to never have all the GB be together and particularly not to travel together, like the semi-mythical Coca-Cola executives who know the secret recipe.

  Do the GB even meet physically any more? The most recent photo of them seated around a boardroom table is years old and seems to be Photoshopped on occasion to add/remove members*.

  * This photo and its variants have popped up from time to time since I've been on here. Don't ask me to find the link; I just remember it being discussed, probably in threads featuring Tony Morris.
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  NotFormer

  I used J-dubs at one stage. But people didn't always get what I was talking about. They thought I was saying something like V-dub (a nickname for Volkswagens) 🙄
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  Jehovah's Witnesses "Declare the Good News" around the World this week. JW Child abuse PAGE ONE on Google news!

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  7/28/2024 sunday, despite dozens of watchtower official press releases attempting to swamp google seo, new zealand child abuse outrages climb to page one for "jehovah" news results.. ".

  former jehovah's witnesses welcome inquiry's findings of 'credible evidence' of abuse.

  8:07 am on 27 july 2024".

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  "Regarding two witness rule - what about saying Jehovah and Jesus were my witnesses?"

  I've wondered why they can't use something like that. That the "spirit directed" elders, or one of them, could be the second witness by proxy. Of course, it's loaded with downsides, but what isn't in that self-contradictory organisation? 🙄
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  Jehovah's Witnesses "Declare the Good News" around the World this week. JW Child abuse PAGE ONE on Google news!

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  7/28/2024 sunday, despite dozens of watchtower official press releases attempting to swamp google seo, new zealand child abuse outrages climb to page one for "jehovah" news results.. ".

  former jehovah's witnesses welcome inquiry's findings of 'credible evidence' of abuse.

  8:07 am on 27 july 2024".

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  NotFormer

  "I don't think they'll give an apology unless they're forced to by some government mandate that will take away their charity status or something."

  It's the only reason they ever change anything.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses "Declare the Good News" around the World this week. JW Child abuse PAGE ONE on Google news!

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  7/28/2024 sunday, despite dozens of watchtower official press releases attempting to swamp google seo, new zealand child abuse outrages climb to page one for "jehovah" news results.. ".

  former jehovah's witnesses welcome inquiry's findings of 'credible evidence' of abuse.

  8:07 am on 27 july 2024".

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  NotFormer

  "Jehovah's Witnesses have deep sympathy for all victims of abuse and are committed to providing them with support and comfort.

  No, you don't and no, you aren't!

  "The protection of children continues to be of utmost concern and importance to all Jehovah's Witnesses.

  No, it doesn't!

  "We welcome examination of our child protection policies and have engaged openly with the Inquiry since its inception."

  No, you don't and no, you haven't!

  "We are therefore dismayed that the case study does not present an accurate and fair assessment of the beliefs and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses."

  Yes, it does!
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  NotFormer

  A very certain distinctive of JWs is how they refer to themselves. "One of Jehovah's Witnesses". It's one of those coded jargon thingies. An outsider will say "a Jehovah's Witness", or even worse (to the JW ear) "a Jehovah Witness". Even though I am a very well informed outsider, I'll never dignify their delusion nor stroke their ego by saying "Are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses?" or "You're one of Jehovah's Witnesses".

  In JW circles their own urban legends will have outsiders referring to them by their own preferred reference. You'll see anecdotes on Reddit, Quora and in videos where Joe or Jane Public came up to one and said "Are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses?" Upon reading/hearing this, I'll roll my eyes and say: "No they didn't!, They asked: (if the story is even remotely true, that is) 'Are you a Jehovah's Witness?' or 'Are you a Jehovah Witness?'" We outsiders quite simply don't use their jargon of self importance.

  I assume exes drop the "One of ..." epithet very quickly as well?

  While writing this the thought came to me about when that self-descriptor first came into being: was it part of the initial name change by Rutherford, or was it a later development? When is the first recorded incidence of "One of Jehovah's Witnesses"?
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  Is Serena's Williams a JW baptized that is

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (can't insert edit in title husband a jw?).

  i just read that serena said both of them were jws.

  but this wouldn't be the first time means 1) supports her beliefs and does them 2) supports her beliefs and doesn't interfered with but no where does it say he is a baptized witness.

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  NotFormer

  "With the Governing Body, all things are possible...with a green handshake, bottle of single malt Scotch and Rolex. :smile:"

  Proverbs 17:23 probably gets read out at every GB meeting... not!