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  Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

  i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

  colour me gobsmacked!

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  NotFormer

  It's not that far from "body corporate".
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  Is JW.org going Broke?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

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  Interesting that he's calling it a membership fee. I wonder if they can figure out a way to make that official. 🤔
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  Jws getting drunk

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone got any good 'jws and alcohol' stories?

  i always found it amazing that so many jws got blind drunk at parties and got away with it!

  i suppose alcohol was the only fun thing we were allowed to partake in....

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  NotFormer

  I always read the Andy Capp comic strip when I was a kid. I don't think I understood half of it at the time, but it is a childhood memory.
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  Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

  i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

  colour me gobsmacked!

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  NotFormer

  I seem to remember them being very excited about the word "government" and may have translated various Greek and Hebrew words that way as a preference. Can anyone look it up in a NWT concordance? I tried looking at the NWT online, but it doesn't seem to be searchable in that manner.
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  Overheard JW Phone Conversation

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was sitting down to lunch yesterday when i heard the man at the table behind me say into his phone "yeah, it's going to be hard since they want us to pioneer in april.".

  of course, i was all ears at this point.

  next thing i could pick up over the din of a crowded restaurant was "he has to go to the meetings for a year before he can come back.

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  NotFormer

  I came across this thread searching for "You might be a Jehovah's Witness if..." jokes.

  Unshackled: "If all your friends are janitors and window washers...you might be a Jehovah's Witness."

  How about "If all the people you have theological discussions with are janitors and window washers...you might be a Jehovah's Witness."? 😺😆
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  Our Kingdom Ministry

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the watchtower and the awake!

  looking online, it seems that the wt ceased publication of this in 2016. is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication?

  or has it ceased to be?.

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  NotFormer

  These are big changes. The WT leadership has always clung to the old way of doing things whenever they could. Things must have changed a lot for them to approve the kinds of changes that they are making. Do they feel that the changes that they are making are improving things?
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  Jws getting drunk

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone got any good 'jws and alcohol' stories?

  i always found it amazing that so many jws got blind drunk at parties and got away with it!

  i suppose alcohol was the only fun thing we were allowed to partake in....

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  NotFormer

  PON: Where I come from pissed means the same thing. In fact, we had our own local form of rhyming slang for it, named after a famous tennis player. Adrian Quist (or just Adrian) = pissed.

  I know that you didn't ask the question, but whatever did happen to Andy Capp? 🤔
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  Our Kingdom Ministry

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the watchtower and the awake!

  looking online, it seems that the wt ceased publication of this in 2016. is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication?

  or has it ceased to be?.

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  NotFormer

  My understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the Watchtower and the Awake! Looking online, it seems that the WT ceased publication of this in 2016. Is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication? Or has it ceased to be?

  If the latter, is this another sign of the slow death of the organisation?
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  AN ALTERNATIVE CONVERSATION WITH A NEIGHBOR - Watchtower, October 2014

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. social
  2. humour

  the contrived and unrealistic conversation that one of jehovahs witnesses imagined having with a neighbor in the october 2014 watchtower will not be reproduced here.

  instead let us imagine another conversation another witness named andre (ahem, sorry) cameron has at the home of another man who is also named jon.keep searching for a suckercameron: jon, ive really enjoyed the regular discussions weve been having about the bible.

  * the last time we spoke, you raised a question about gods kingdom.

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  NotFormer

  Whenever I try to have these kinds of conversations with JWs, it's Cameron who is nervously looking for the exits.

  I don't find the JWs to be as brave as they once were, nor do they have the ability to debate that they once had. Is this all part of the dumbing down that gets alluded to here?
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  Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.

  on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".

  also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.

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  NotFormer

  Is there a right to refusal clause in convention advertising?