Posts by NotFormer

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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?

by southyukon in

i have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.

higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.

a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.

NotFormer

My understanding from what I've read over the years is that the WT paints a picture of tertiary education being a school for worldliness. In reality, university life reflects society as a whole: it can be as debauched and party-oriented, or as sober and chaste as you make it. It's a pity that the WT's overarching scheme has been to depict anything outside their control as something horrible and frightening. I suppose it all fits against the backdrop of the WT being the Ark, and everything else being the doomed world outside.

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

NotFormer

https://churchofyahweh.godaddysites.com/

There are lots of groups with Yahweh in their title, apparently.

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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NotFormer

I was looking in the wrong place for how to change it. Will try uploading something else later.

Thanks meanmrmustard 👍🎄👏🙏

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

NotFormer

"I know many JWs who would claim: "But they (WTS/GB) have been right about everything else!"

"Such as what, you ask?"

"Trinity is untrue"

Christadelphians, Russell stole it from them.

"Soul is not immortal"

Again, stolen from the Christadelphians by Russell

"Hell is common grave (not Hell Fire)"

Stolen by Russell from Christadelphians

"Only group fulfilling Matt 24:14 (worldwide preaching)"

Most denominations have churches all over the world and outnumber JW membership.

'Only group remaining "no part of the world"'

Have they never heard of the Amish?

"Only group (widely) using the name "Jehovah" (vindication of God's name)"

House of Yahweh and Congregation of Yahweh (Jehovah is a scribal error from the thirteenth century)

"Displaying unequaled True Love of Brother (or Mankind)"

That's just laughable that they would call their disdain for anyone outside the WT "love"!

"Unparalleled growth (proof of Jah's Holy Spirit & blessing)"

Belt tightening, not tracking hours to keep publisher numbers up; sure you're growing! 🙄

"YES, THEY REALLY BELIEVE ALL OF THIS!"

😢 😭

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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NotFormer

Modern Judaism doesn't count blood transfusions as eating blood.

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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NotFormer

I'm not crazy about my avatar, either! 🤣 But it is what it is.

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2 Jehovah's Witness Elders give evidence in Court, others did not, will the 2 be punished for giving evidence?

by was a new boy in

'man guilty of abuse — after silence from church members.

a jehovah’s witness has been found guilty of sexually abusing a teen over a number of years – after the silence of church members who refused to give evidence.'.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourcecode=aaweb_wre170_a_ggl&dest=https%3a%2f%2fwww.adelaidenow.com.au%2ftruecrimeaustralia%2fpolice-courts-sa%2fjehovahs-witness-found-guilty-of-unlawful-sexual-relationship-with-teen-after-silence-from-some-senior-members-who-refused-to-give-evidence%2fnews-story%2f6f8c4cee4023dfc5cb42a9b580213d70&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=groupa-segment-2-noscore.

NotFormer

That's an interesting edit of a (presumably legitimate) WT cover. The WT always had weird ways of celebrating their faithful ones. Showing off the faithful ones who are dying off is one example. Another was the cover boasting of the kids who died refusing blood transfusions. I always wonder how the parents felt about that cover when it came out. How do they feel now (those who are still alive)? Of course, there's no guarantee that the kids would have lived, had they had the transfusions; they were very ill. It's just bizarre the ghoulish way the WT showcases people being faithful unto the death, in the case of the above picture of the generation that did pass away, and the kids who refused blood.

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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NotFormer

TonusOH: people determined to confirm their biases will find that confirmation.

IWant2Know: He pops in from time to time. The avatar issue has been on the backburner for some time. This is just a hobby for him. That it works so well as such should be congratulated.

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

.

NotFormer

"But JWs aren't the only ones who interpret Michael to be Jesus."

There's a small amount of truth in that. I believe I heard (this was decades ago, so my memory may be faulty) a Christadelphian say that Jesus was Michael in some prophetic sense. But they wouldn't have had the same belief as JWs, even though Russell probably got his non-Trinitarian views from the Christadelphians. The Christadelphians don't believe in any pre-existance of Jesus before his conception, while Michael was around before that.

The blood doctrine is totally unique to JWs, probably a hobby horse of Franz. You'll note that it wasn't implemented until after Rutherford's death. He was in ill health; perhaps he needed transfusions.

144000 Israelite male virgins referring to Christians of both genders and not being necessarily celibate is unique. The nature of those people is apparently "symbolic", but their number (12×12×1000, extremely symbolic biblical numbers) is apparently absolute.

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February 2024 Study Watchtower -

by BoogerMan in

february 2024 study watchtower p. 2 par.

2 - "however, a question may arise: 🤣 what will happen to christ’s “other sheep” who will be serving jehovah faithfully on earth during the “great tribulation”?

(john 10:16; matt.

NotFormer

St George of England, I have read on here that Malcolm was so peeved with the whole thing that he eventually joined the military.