Posts by NotFormer

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Bathwater

by peacefulpete in

many who have become disillusioned by some particular recent wt offence, separate from the church physically but retain the indoctrination the wt installed in their brains.

a familiar trope is often used,.

"don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!".

The FDS Photoshop

by Vanderhoven7 in

for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.

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from the february 2024 watchtower .

The ''dreaded'' birthday cake

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 39. let mildness be your strength.

11 if a workmate asks, for example, why we do not celebrate birthdays, consider: could he be wondering whether we are allowed to have a good time?

or might he feel that our position will dampen the company’s team spirit?

Perhaps a JW who wants a bit of the office birthday cake could rationalise it against what Hezekiah did to the bronze serpent. "I'll take their pagan birthday cake and grind it down into the human waste that it is!"

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JW Restrictions on Children

by NotFormer in

issues raised in this thread:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6496820625145856/non-jw-parent-dating-jw-who-wants-children.

i'm trying to list all the things jw children are not allowed to do, or are discouraged from doing.

NotFormer

Vidiot, the interesting thing about your suggestion is that those countries already pretty well exist. Some of the Islamic states, and even North Korea, look very much like the country you are describing. It doesn't take much of a stretch of the imagination to create the visual image of a country run along the lines of ideology.

One hurdle in the development of a JW state would be in the fact that they would very early in the piece need to have a police force (and very probably a military!). We'd soon see what side their bread is buttered on when that happened!

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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?

by Sea Breeze in

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found this on fb from the recent losch talk.

time for a new business model?.

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NotFormer

dropoffyourkeylee: "I'm with Blondie on this one. When (not if, but when) they need to do so, they will start an obligatory donation. They'll spin it somehow and call it something else, but it will be a tithe in practice"

Could they get away with something as blatant as an entry fee to the Sunday meeting at the door? $3 per person per week would equate to about the monthly amount that they currently want per head.

The ticket seller at the door would be a whole new "privilege" they could dangle before the hungry hordes. 🙄

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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

found this on fb from the recent losch talk.

time for a new business model?.

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NotFormer

"I’ve long felt that they should adapt the Revelation Climax book.

It’d make Left Behind seem quaint by comparison"

Vidiot, I'd totally go to see that! If we were on the same continent, I'd shout you your popcorn! 😁👍

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No Reporting of Time, Tithing is OK, Now WT Teaches a "Rapture" - What's Next?

by Sea Breeze in

those who will be taken to heaven will first need to be “changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.” therefore, while we do not use the term “rapture” here because of its wrong connotation, the remaining faithful anointed will be gathered together in an instant of time.

- the watchtower—study edition | july 2015. ok so they refuse to use the word "rapture".

kinda like they refuse to use the word church and clergy (except when it suits their purposes in court cases).

NotFormer

Even the "mainstream" "doctrine" of the rapture is cobbled together from a few unconnected bible verses. The bit in Thessalonians, plus the passages in Matthew and Luke about one being taken and one being left behind. Sometimes they'll try to find something in Revelation that hints at it. Among the rapture believers there is fierce argument about when the rapture will occur, whether before the Great Tribulation (Pre-Tribulation), during (Mid-Tribulation) or after (Post-Tribulation). Some will condemn you to Hell if you have the wrong view of when the rapture will occur. I believe Texe Marrs was one of those (he was post-trib). The late Tim Lahaye (The Left Behind series) was pre-trib. The different timings are related to the various prophecies, interpreted to be about the GT, featuring a period of seven years and an intermediate period of three and a half years (long time JWs will be fully aware of those, I imagine).

Back to the WT version. If the GB are now allowing for a rapture, are they pre, mid, or post-trib?

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What If The Tower Fell?

by Big Dog in

what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

NotFormer

"Carry on J-Dubb"

Undoubtedly the worst Carry On movie ever made. Not even Sid James as Tony Morris could save it! Or was it Charles Hawtrey playing Morris? 🤔

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The 'Tower has no Face

by NotFormer in

just thinking about how the wt has evolved over the century of its existence.

before the gb tricked knorr into making them the ones responsible for everything, the president at the time was very much the face of the society.

after franz, it all became a bit nebulous as to who was in charge.. is the current situation more advantageous to the wt or less?.

NotFormer

Just thinking about how the WT has evolved over the century of its existence. Before the GB tricked Knorr into making them the ones responsible for everything, the President at the time was very much the face of the Society. After Franz, it all became a bit nebulous as to who was in charge.

Is the current situation more advantageous to the WT or less?

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No Reporting of Time, Tithing is OK, Now WT Teaches a "Rapture" - What's Next?

by Sea Breeze in

those who will be taken to heaven will first need to be “changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.” therefore, while we do not use the term “rapture” here because of its wrong connotation, the remaining faithful anointed will be gathered together in an instant of time.

- the watchtower—study edition | july 2015. ok so they refuse to use the word "rapture".

kinda like they refuse to use the word church and clergy (except when it suits their purposes in court cases).

NotFormer

Interesting 🤔. Could they be paving the way for a heavenly destiny for all the faithful? They usually avoid talking about heaven and try to pump up the R&F with the pair-of-dice Erf scenario.

The cynic in me says that it could be a way for the GB to explain the sudden absence of themselves and all the WT funds. 🙄