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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  Dagney, we'd all like to know what really happened. I think you're right about NDAs being involved. Even the Bethelites who might normally leak are being quiet, presumably because any leaks can be traced and punished. The lid is tightly on this one, so you're right, we may never know the truth about what really happened. A lot of people thought he may have left in disgrace, but others suggest it may have been more amicable: he was the last of the old guard that was standing in the way of reform, so they mutually agreed to a decent settlement to get him to step down.

  Vidiot, the two houses are part of that incentive to get him to walk away quietly. The Judge had several residences where he lived, but never shared them with his wife. Maybe it's just a GB thing that us mere mortals would never understand. 🙄
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  NotFormer

  He joined the Peace Corps and is happily engaged in charitable outreach in West Africa
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  Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .

  the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.

  they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.

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  NotFormer

  Back in the glory days, winning court cases against overreaching governments was a good look, and among the ranks, I imagine it was easy to believe that they were on the winning ("Jehovah's") side. But now they are seen as losing more often than not. And the new environment of losing often is in the GB's chickens coming home to roost, the doctrinal distinctives that fly in the face of basic human decency.

  We all know what they should be doing, the things that they stubbornly refuse to embrace. Sure, keep the blood doctrine, but make it truly a conscience issue, without repercussions such as disfellowshipping or forced disassociation. And encourage JWs to go straight to the police at the slightest whiff of CSA matters, without requiring the involvement of the elders at all. And kill the two witnesses rule. Stop pressuring minors to become members, then shunning them. Make baptism something that can only be done at 18; introduce some watered down version for minors, some way they can signify their intent to eventually be baptised that doesn't carry the risk of disfellowshipment if it doesn't all work out.
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  Jehovah's Burglars

  by NotFormer in

  1. social
  2. humour

  by the great spike milligan:.

  https://youtu.be/9b7zlvryzbe?si=hgdlnyeur6serads.

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  "We're seeking refuge from the police; they're persecuting us because of our beliefs".

  "What do you believe?"

  "We believe that you've got a lot of money in this house!"
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  Jehovah's Burglars

  by NotFormer in

  1. social
  2. humour

  by the great spike milligan:.

  https://youtu.be/9b7zlvryzbe?si=hgdlnyeur6serads.

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  NotFormer

  By the great Spike Milligan:

  https://youtu.be/9B7zlvRyzbE?si=HgdLNYeuR6SEraDS
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  ZZ Top is back! Although his name is Beard, Frank Beard will be feeling left out.

  Ever since Rutherford did everything he could to torch the memory of Russell, beards have been verboten. For a century! And now suddenly, it's okay, as if it never happened 😔🙄 But don't you ever dare mention it!

  Since they're in the process of mainstreaming, and they mentioned "Pastor" Russell, do you think that they might bring back "Pastor" as a title?
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  Holy barbasol Batman! Beards are now allowed!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  latest gb update.

  only took them 20 years to see beards are acceptable in society.

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  NotFormer

  "Only took them 20 years to see beards are acceptable in society"

  Try a hundred. Rutherford brought in the beard rule to distance himself and the organisation from Russell.
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  That's it no more posting. I was the first to post beards are now allowed. Since then 2 more of the same!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. bible

  doesn't anyone ever scoll down first to see if the subject was already posted first?

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  NotFormer

  Grow yourself a nice beard to celebrate "new light"!
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  New GB update - beards are now perfectly ok (no really!)

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to save y’all the agony of having to sit & watch lett (looking even more puffy and jaundiced than the last time), here is a summary:.

  beards are now perfectly fine for anyone & everyone, including ministerial servants, elders, and “special full time servants” (cos and betheliites).. but don’t go and feel “vindicated” — even if you knew you were right about beards, you shouldn’t run ahead of jehovah’s “chariot”.. so there you go.. if you need explicit permission from a puffy steroid addled facial contortionist with an increasingly ridiculous combover to make personal grooming decisions…you might be in a cult .

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  NotFormer

  "His ex wife ( woman at the door ) didn't recognise him without a beard and a beer"

  If they can witness with a beard now, can they also witness while holding a beer?
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  2023-12-15--Beards-BOE!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  governing body update #8. beards--see page 3 #2. page 1.--https://imgbox.com/qs27zbgh.

  page 2.--https://imgbox.com/r4jz1fvm .

  page 3.--https://imgbox.com/wynbxegx .

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  NotFormer

  The anti beard thing has been flogged for a hundred years, and was only brought in by da Judge to distance the organisation from Russell. It's taken them this long to realise that it is a non issue? While persecuted people for beard wearing all that time, BTW.