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  Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

  https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

  these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

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  NotFormer

  So much for them denying that they ever said "Thus sayeth The LORD". (they didn't have their own specially worded edition back then)

  "He says the requirements for special pioneers shall be 175 hours and 50 back-calls per month, which should develop into a reasonable number of studies; and for regular pioneers 150 hours and as many back-calls and studies as can be properly developed during that time. And for company publishers he says, ‘Let us make a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’" This seems like they're treating it as a direct quote by Jehovah, although they've muddied it a bit by mentioning His King.
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  The Organization v Christendom!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

  w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

  they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, true dat! 😳

  enoughisenough, the lack of self awareness is palpable. Didn't Rutherford's mother ever tell him the one about "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?
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  The home of APOSTASY - the type/antitype!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 296 bethel - "bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.

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  NotFormer

  I'm a bit agnostic on whether or not WT shares certain similarities with Freemasonry, but I'll keep an open mind. There is that quote by a masonry guy about Russell, but would you believe anything a secret society says about its membership? 🤔🎩🧐

  As for Bethel being WT headquarters, I wouldn't be surprised to find Jahbulon somewhere in the literature 🙄. (Just being sarcastic) 😹
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  The home of APOSTASY - the type/antitype!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 296 bethel - "bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.

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  NotFormer

  This is another head scratcher for me. Why on earth did they choose the name of the city that represented false religion in the Bible?
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  The Organization v Christendom!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

  w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

  they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

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  NotFormer

  Their tone-deafness has never ceased to amaze me. 😳 For every finger that they point, there are always several pointing back towards them.

  Have they ever done a hit piece on the RC church, pointing out the cruelty of excommunication? 🙄
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  Why does the GB never get tagged with the "Running ahead of Jehovah" line?
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  "He reveals it gradually and at a time it is needed"

  Like ratcheting back the shunning in the face of government interest? Like the pressures they're now facing over blood and the two witnesses rule in CSA cases?
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot: "Simply the fact that they can keep on doing it without having a nervous fucking breakdown"

  I wonder how medicated they are?

  Bottlegate suggests that Tony may have been self-medicating (that is if all those bottles were for him. Diogenesister made the point that he could have been stocking up for a large party, eg. a major anniversary, which is not outside the realms of possibility).

  The GB's medical records would be interesting; does Vidiot's hypothesised "they know it's wrong but believe it's true" situation translate into mental health issues that medication can make "go away" to some extent? We'll never see those, and they still are human beings with a certain right to privacy.

  Still, it's interesting to speculate about some future time when the WT bunker is torn down (end of Nazi Germany, Soviet Union and Berlin Wall style) and the files released to historians. I imagine that the mental health of the GB and their administrative circle would make for some interesting theses.
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  My grandmother called my mother

  by Anony Mous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i’m just posting this as a warning to lurking jws.

  if you’re still on the fence, here is a story.. my grandmother, now in her 80s hasn’t talked to anyone in the family for over 20 years ever since my mother was the last one of her children that left ‘the truth’, she had sent my mother a card to never talk to her again.

  so here we are 21 years later, she gets a call out of the blue that she needed help, she hadn’t been able to get into her kitchen.

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  NotFormer

  So only kindness shown to the 144000, not the broad congregation, warrants God's favour?
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  More victory for Ex-JWs in B.C. Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-jehovahs-witness-privacy-battle-1.7079252.

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  NotFormer

  There are plenty of biblical passages about wearing the consequences of your actions: sowing and reaping, for example. I wonder if they'll make the connection?