Posts by NotFormer

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JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

by enoughisenough in

jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

he made a pretty good case.

NotFormer

Rattigan350: "Witnesses can do what they want as for charities"

Yes I'm sure they say that, just the same way that they justify their stinginess over birthdays and Christmas by saying that they don't need special days to give people stuff, and then they don't give anybody anything 😔.

The fact is that in JW eyes most charities are aligned with Babylon the Grape, or the Beast, so wouldn't give to them so they don't share in their guilt. Could you honestly see a Dub giving to the Salvation Army's winter appeal? 🙄

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Depression & Isolation

by TxNVSue2023 in

i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

NotFormer

Well Sue, it's nice to see you back. It's kind of sad that the only people you feel comfortable talking about your problems with are those that your new/renewed friends would probably see as "enemies of Jehovah God". I hope you find the healing you need.

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Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

NotFormer

So much for them denying that they ever said "Thus sayeth The LORD". (they didn't have their own specially worded edition back then)

"He says the requirements for special pioneers shall be 175 hours and 50 back-calls per month, which should develop into a reasonable number of studies; and for regular pioneers 150 hours and as many back-calls and studies as can be properly developed during that time. And for company publishers he says, ‘Let us make a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’" This seems like they're treating it as a direct quote by Jehovah, although they've muddied it a bit by mentioning His King.

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The Organization v Christendom!

by BoogerMan in

the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

NotFormer

Vidiot, true dat! 😳

enoughisenough, the lack of self awareness is palpable. Didn't Rutherford's mother ever tell him the one about "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?

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The home of APOSTASY - the type/antitype!

by BoogerMan in

it-1 p. 296 bethel - "bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.

".

NotFormer

I'm a bit agnostic on whether or not WT shares certain similarities with Freemasonry, but I'll keep an open mind. There is that quote by a masonry guy about Russell, but would you believe anything a secret society says about its membership? 🤔🎩🧐

As for Bethel being WT headquarters, I wouldn't be surprised to find Jahbulon somewhere in the literature 🙄. (Just being sarcastic) 😹

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The home of APOSTASY - the type/antitype!

by BoogerMan in

it-1 p. 296 bethel - "bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.

".

NotFormer

This is another head scratcher for me. Why on earth did they choose the name of the city that represented false religion in the Bible?

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The Organization v Christendom!

by BoogerMan in

the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

NotFormer

Their tone-deafness has never ceased to amaze me. 😳 For every finger that they point, there are always several pointing back towards them.

Have they ever done a hit piece on the RC church, pointing out the cruelty of excommunication? 🙄

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Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

NotFormer

Why does the GB never get tagged with the "Running ahead of Jehovah" line?

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Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

NotFormer

"He reveals it gradually and at a time it is needed"

Like ratcheting back the shunning in the face of government interest? Like the pressures they're now facing over blood and the two witnesses rule in CSA cases?

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Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

by NotFormer in

the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

NotFormer

Vidiot: "Simply the fact that they can keep on doing it without having a nervous fucking breakdown"

I wonder how medicated they are?

Bottlegate suggests that Tony may have been self-medicating (that is if all those bottles were for him. Diogenesister made the point that he could have been stocking up for a large party, eg. a major anniversary, which is not outside the realms of possibility).

The GB's medical records would be interesting; does Vidiot's hypothesised "they know it's wrong but believe it's true" situation translate into mental health issues that medication can make "go away" to some extent? We'll never see those, and they still are human beings with a certain right to privacy.

Still, it's interesting to speculate about some future time when the WT bunker is torn down (end of Nazi Germany, Soviet Union and Berlin Wall style) and the files released to historians. I imagine that the mental health of the GB and their administrative circle would make for some interesting theses.