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  "Other sheep" JW's are NOT witnesses & should NOT be preaching!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only those who think that they'll soooooooon be king/priests, can be called "witnesses" and do preaching work.. w98 2/1 p. 17 par.

  16 - in 33 c.e., the israel of god (not r/f jw's!

  ) replaced fleshly israel and became jehovah’s “servant,” his “witnesses.”.

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  NotFormer

  I don't understand why the R&F even bother. According to the WT, the bible wasn't written for them, only for the 144000. So any attempts by the organisation at admonishing them biblically should fall on deaf ears. "Not my dog; not my fight" should be the R&F's mantra.
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  Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

  the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

  like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

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  NotFormer

  Not a lot of detail about what the SBC is being accused of. The Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement can be a breeding ground for CSA and other types of abuse. The pastor's word is law, and he can impose his will on anyone and suppress any attempts at getting justice through the legal system (sound familiar?)

  The case of Jack Hyles and his successor Jack Schaap is a great example. Jack Schaap recently got released from prison. It'll be interesting to see if anyone will be gullible enough to let him pastor another church.
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  Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

  the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

  like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

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  NotFormer

  Ah, yes, hide the truth behind a catch cry like "theocratic warfare". 🙄

  The Watchtower does a lot of Orwellian doublespeak, doesn't it? "Cruelty is kindness", for their disfellowshipping policy. "Lying for The Truth", and so on.
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  Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

  the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

  like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

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  NotFormer

  "Even then, Lopes added, Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t force members to limit or cease association with former congregants, whether they’ve been disfellowshipped or withdrawn voluntarily—that’s up to individuals.

  “Congregation elders do not police the personal lives of congregants, nor do they exercise control over the faith of individual Jehovah’s Witnesses,”

  The level of dishonesty here is breathtaking. Remind me again Mr. Lopes: who is the Father of Lies?

  "In an email to RNS, Jehovah’s Witnesses spokesperson Jarrod Lopes said Witnesses only disfellowship an unrepentant member who “makes a practice” of serious violations of “the Bible’s moral code."

  We're talking about children, not unrepentant monsters!
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  Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

  the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

  i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

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  NotFormer

  I actually wrote WWI for the league of nations, but it seems my idiot tablet autocorrected it! 😠

  ExBethelitenowPIMA, if the league of nations was formed in 1919, then that would be an interesting counterpoint to their love of that date. But I just looked it up, League of Nations was formed in 1920, presumably after Satan knew his time was short with the appointment of the FDS! 🙄🤮

  Man, the ego on Rutherford!
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  Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

  the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

  i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

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  NotFormer

  My understanding* is that the UN is supposed to be the wild beast of Revelation. The UN only came into being after WWII, so what was the beast before the new light came about? I can't see a speculative organisation like the WT not having an interpretation of the beast before the UN came into being. Even if it was the League of Nations, that came into being after WWII. What was Russell's take on the beast?

  *Subject to loving correction, of course! 😸
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  JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

  i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

  he made a pretty good case.

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  NotFormer

  Rattigan350: "Witnesses can do what they want as for charities"

  Yes I'm sure they say that, just the same way that they justify their stinginess over birthdays and Christmas by saying that they don't need special days to give people stuff, and then they don't give anybody anything 😔.

  The fact is that in JW eyes most charities are aligned with Babylon the Grape, or the Beast, so wouldn't give to them so they don't share in their guilt. Could you honestly see a Dub giving to the Salvation Army's winter appeal? 🙄
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  Depression & Isolation

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

  i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

  i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

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  NotFormer

  Well Sue, it's nice to see you back. It's kind of sad that the only people you feel comfortable talking about your problems with are those that your new/renewed friends would probably see as "enemies of Jehovah God". I hope you find the healing you need.
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  Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

  https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

  these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

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  NotFormer

  So much for them denying that they ever said "Thus sayeth The LORD". (they didn't have their own specially worded edition back then)

  "He says the requirements for special pioneers shall be 175 hours and 50 back-calls per month, which should develop into a reasonable number of studies; and for regular pioneers 150 hours and as many back-calls and studies as can be properly developed during that time. And for company publishers he says, ‘Let us make a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’" This seems like they're treating it as a direct quote by Jehovah, although they've muddied it a bit by mentioning His King.
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  The Organization v Christendom!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the faithful evil slave's money-grabbing hypocrisy is beyond laughable!.

  w75 12/15 p. 743 - "the religious systems of christendom have constructed magnificent buildings throughout the earth.

  they have also amassed great wealth in other forms.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, true dat! 😳

  enoughisenough, the lack of self awareness is palpable. Didn't Rutherford's mother ever tell him the one about "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?