Posts by NotFormer

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Does The WT President Still Have Any Power?

by NotFormer in

in rutherford's day, it was absolute.

knorr and franz had strong influence, even though the gb had voted themselves into a role of significance.

being a corporation, the wt will still have a president.

NotFormer

Some names I remember from back in the day: Milton Henschel (was he president or GB?). Also Don Adams (everyone was amused by this; Get Smart references abounded).

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The secret 10 year plan to save the watchtower .

by gavindlt in

https://youtu.be/pszy22hzj8o.

new light?.

https://www.dadseekingtruth.com/.

I'm not usually in agreement with Vienne, but this is all stuff from the wishlists that are regularly posted on here. Amnesty for disfellowshipped? I suggested it a while back: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6606021645041664/general-amnesty-disfellowshipped But I don't really believe that they're capable of the level of compassion that such would require. Linking it to Jubilee? At least get your facts straight: Jubilee was fifty, not seventy, years.

The Norway thing caught them with their trousers down. If they were seriously going to change the disfellowshipping rules, they'd be negotiating with the Norwegian government, not fighting them in the courts.

Blood issue? Heavily entrenched and open to huge amounts of litigation, no matter how much they are trying to now say they had no influence over "personal" decisions on blood.

CSA? Again, too entrenched. They've had over a decade to get their crap together, ever since the ARC demonstrated that governments have begun to show interest, but they've just sat on their hands.

The posited changes will bring people running to the WT in droves? Are you having a laugh?

Tony Morris leaving because of the changes? Again, heavily speculated on here, but not one skerrick of evidence.

This whole video is just a regurgitated rehash of discussions had here and on Reddit.

But Diogenesister is right, this would be mind blowingly impactful if true. And she's right, they have too much blood on their hands; they must never be forgiven, nor what they did forgotten.

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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness

by Ron.W. in

a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.

elder: 'yes.

i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!

NotFormer

"Yes, I'm getting my gender affirming surgery next week".

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

NotFormer

I can't see a Samsonesque self-sacrifice by the GB. One, they're strike me as being pretty cowardly. They're great at having others make sacrifices, but aren't that keen on doing it themselves. Two, I imagine they have comfortable living quarters and their regularly provided dinners are probably pretty good. Not to mention the added privileges like flying first class to be chauffeured to a convention where everyone hangs on their every word, five star hotel accommodation, etc. Also not to mention, the special envelopes handed to them by visitors to Bethel.

Let's face it, they have it pretty good and they probably believe in their lifestyle more than they believe in their eschatology. They'll knuckle down and do what the government wants*, as long as they can keep the lifestyle to which they are accustomed.

*Remember, they dropped the sacrosanct door to door work, their main distinction, at the merest hint that the government might have a problem with it, during the lockdowns.

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Does The WT President Still Have Any Power?

by NotFormer in

in rutherford's day, it was absolute.

knorr and franz had strong influence, even though the gb had voted themselves into a role of significance.

being a corporation, the wt will still have a president.

NotFormer

In Rutherford's day, it was absolute. Knorr and Franz had strong influence, even though the GB had voted themselves into a role of significance. Being a corporation, the WT will still have a president. But with GB 3.0 hogging the limelight and seemingly making all the decisions, what exactly does the president now do?

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Oh boy: 1,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses reach out to Super Bowl fans in Las Vegas

by Tahoe in

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/02/09/1000-jehovahs-witnesses-reach-out-super-bowl-fans-las-vegas/ .

1000 lit-up carts at 50 strategic locations near the stadium and on the strip.

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NotFormer

Canvassing sports events? Is this the next new light to expect: participating in team sports is okay? 🙄

Turnabout is fair play: the local youth sporting groups should stand around Kingdom Halls (off the property, of course) and try to recruit young people for team sports. ⛹️🤾🏏⚾🏒🏈🥌

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The Day two JW kids murdered their parents.

by LDH in

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for those of you who are unfamiliar with the story, which is ten years old now.

the freeman brothers of allentown pennsylvania lashed out against their strict upbringing by killing their loyal jw parents and even their younger brother.. the story made national headlines because these two had tattoos on their foreheads.

"berzerker" and "sieg heil.".

NotFormer

"Perhaps if the father allowed his sons to play sports and baseball at school they would have learned to use the baseball bat in the way it was intended."

In Agatha Christie's Ordeal By Innocence, the police inspector opines that the previous suspect was "a wrong'un". Basically morally flawed and destined for certain patterns of behaviour.

These brothers may have been headed for some similar results, no matter how they were treated.

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printed magazines

by pepperheart2 in

hi does any body know if the watchtower are printing any new awakes etc as these past 8 months or so i have had magazines from four different carts from four different towns 100s of miles apart and the most recent magazines that they all had were from 2021..

NotFormer

Remember when they were an impressive publishing corporation? And then they begrudged paying Caesar a small amount of sales tax. Now they hardly print any magazines and those that they do, they can't give away "for free".

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Ever changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

some might be interested in this comprehensive list of changes and reversals in the channel of truth.. reading history:.

ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses.

the most important changes in the doctrine of the watchtower society in the years 1879-2015. .

NotFormer

They'll never rescind the beard ruling, no matter how hairsute the congregation becomes.

The most ridiculous thing about it is of how much of an issue it was and how it's change was shouted from the housetops like it was important. For Pete's sake, GB, it is just a few hairs sticking out of someone's face! They should never have had any sort of rigid policy on it in the first place.

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Comedian Katt Williams Wrongly Disfellowshipped By Jehovah's Witnesses!!!

by Golden4Altar in

comedian katt williams wrongly disfellowshipped by jehovah's witnesses!!!.

here is the link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59.

golden 4altar.

NotFormer

It's the shunning we're against. The family should be allowed to make up their own minds how to treat him, regardless of his WT membership status.

Did he come forward to confess stuff, or were the elders snooping?

As Balaamsass2 says, the WT needs to get out of the spy and cop business.