Does that mean that there is a two tier system: that disfellowshipped are treated better than disassociated? Are they likely to update the rules regarding disassociated to bring them in line with new DF rules?
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness
by Ron.W. ina slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
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NotFormer
Ron.W., great to see Kenny as Sid Snot! 🤣👍😸
How far down that rabbit hole do you think that JWs will go, with clothing restrictions lifted?
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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!
by WingCommander inyou heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
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NotFormer
JW GoneBad, yet according to their bizarre rules, they kept Jehovah's organisation "clean"! You gotta wonder about the thought processes of those at the top. 🤔
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Minor Accused of Wrongdoing who doesn't have JW Parents
by NotFormer infrom the update*: "8. when a baptised minor becomes involved in serious wrongdoing, two elders (not a committee) will meet with him along with his christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)".. "christian" is wt code for jw, i'm guessing, and it's worded this way to sound more ambiguous for the sake of the norwegian and other governments.
so what happens to a minor who doesn't have jw parents?
a young convert (not likely in this day and age, but not impossible) or a born in who was orphaned and adopted by non-jw relatives?
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NotFormer
Mikejw, you just gave two examples of ways it could happen. And in the case of the kid who has "spiritual guardians" , they are not his "legal guardian(s)", so that kid is on his own!
In a population of 8 million, there are likely to be a few of these rare exceptions, I'm guessing.
joey jojo: "There's no way they are opening up the commitee/ wrongdoing meetings to wordly people. Imagine that P.R. disaster. :smile:"
The world would see how things really are behind the wizard's curtain! 😱
joey jojo: "I remember a few teens, back in the 80's who came into the Borg through bible studies with work colleagues, without their parents.
"They were about 15 or 16. Its not common but it's definitely happened."
It's not impossible, so there is the possibility that there will be kids hauled before the elders like they were in the old days, without adult advocacy.
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Minor Accused of Wrongdoing who doesn't have JW Parents
by NotFormer infrom the update*: "8. when a baptised minor becomes involved in serious wrongdoing, two elders (not a committee) will meet with him along with his christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)".. "christian" is wt code for jw, i'm guessing, and it's worded this way to sound more ambiguous for the sake of the norwegian and other governments.
so what happens to a minor who doesn't have jw parents?
a young convert (not likely in this day and age, but not impossible) or a born in who was orphaned and adopted by non-jw relatives?
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NotFormer
The key word is "Christian". I read it to mean that only JWs can accompany the minor. In my example, the guardians are not JWs.
The wording clearly says that "Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)" can accompany the minor. I can't see any non-JW parent or guardian getting anywhere near that meeting.
That was only a couple of suggested scenarios. There must be more examples of JWs who are minors who don't have JW parents or guardians.
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Minor Accused of Wrongdoing who doesn't have JW Parents
by NotFormer infrom the update*: "8. when a baptised minor becomes involved in serious wrongdoing, two elders (not a committee) will meet with him along with his christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)".. "christian" is wt code for jw, i'm guessing, and it's worded this way to sound more ambiguous for the sake of the norwegian and other governments.
so what happens to a minor who doesn't have jw parents?
a young convert (not likely in this day and age, but not impossible) or a born in who was orphaned and adopted by non-jw relatives?
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From the update*: "8. When a baptised minor becomes involved in serious wrongdoing, two elders (not a committee) will meet with him along with his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)".
"Christian" is WT code for JW, I'm guessing, and it's worded this way to sound more ambiguous for the sake of the Norwegian and other governments. So what happens to a minor who doesn't have JW parents? A young convert (not likely in this day and age, but not impossible) or a born in who was orphaned and adopted by non-JW relatives? Who is supposed to have his back when he's hauled before the elders?
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JWlite like being a Trekkie. You know it’s fictional
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ini now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.
star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.
but they find it beneficial.
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NotFormer
ExBethelitenowPIMA: "Even in the Trekkie world there are some who are no longer strong in the faith. They are just not as interested as they used to be. So I hear"
After the new light handed down by Discovery and Picard, I knew I could never comfortably identify with Trek anymore.
I wish whoever owned Trek's IP at the time had allowed Axanar to happen. 😿
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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!
by WingCommander inyou heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
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NotFormer
JW GoneBad, 14 disfellowshipped and more on restrictions? All sitting together at the back of the KH? There is a very real danger that they could start hanging out together and be each other's support group. I wonder if that ever happened in a congregation with enough disfellowshipped to make such a scenario worthwhile.
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What are you wearing for the special talk
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inmany are talking on whatsapp about what to wear.
sisters wearing slacks and brothers wearing all sorts of different tops.
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NotFormer
Ron.W., are catsuits legal now?*
*My tablet is operating under the old light: it was too prudish to autocomplete "catsuit".
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Problem...
by Gorb inif i was an active jw, i would like to greet df jw's.. how do i know that they are not apostates or continue wrong lifestyle promotors?.
i would need this information, so were to get?
the grapevine?
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NotFormer
"The message from the GB is clear: sleep around, steal, smoke, take drugs, be a total prick of a human being - thats fine, you could be re-instated in 90 days.
But criticise the GB about anything......."
I've never been convinced that the WT ever had any clear idea of what constituted sin. The only sin that ever mattered to them was questioning them.