IOW, they're walking it back. The R&F know how to read between the lines. But they're trying to fool governments into believing their line that they don't tell anybody what to do and that members are free to make their own choices.
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2024-May-3rd-Announcement-and Transcripts!
by Atlantis in2024-05-may-03-announcement.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/faad3e3dtranscripts for 2024 governing body update #3englishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/ce4ae1d8germanhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/3bf805be spanishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/a4e3fd3b frenchhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/d37d5822 russianhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/71fe8f28 grandpa!
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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness
by Ron.W. ina slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
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NotFormer
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof"
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Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]
by Golden4Altar inleaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!
[must watch!].
this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.
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NotFormer
At first, reading the headline, I thought that the WT had received that money from the UK government. That would be a huge scandal. Voluntary donations from the R&F, not so much. They're free to donate their hard-earned to whomever they like.
If that figure is true, a quick back of the envelope calculation reduces that amount to about $630 per year per witness, or about $52 per month. $13* a week. That's not a huge amount for individual donations by a practitioner of any religion.
The headline figure is breathtaking, but not so much when its broken down. It's a tad dishonest, IMO, to telegraph figures in that way. You see this sort of reporting every day: "Government to spend $10bn tackling (cause du jour)!" screams a headline. But when you read the article, it's the total amount budgeted to be spent over the next X number of years. Not such a big figure then, is it?
Don't get me wrong, I hate the control that the WT has over its slaves (their term, not mine). But try to keep things in perspective. A lot of people spend a lot more than $13 a week on cigarettes or lottery tickets. While I don't personally approve of the average JW's "vice" of giving money to the WT, it's their choice.
*£10.35 Sterling.
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2024-May-3rd-Announcement-and Transcripts!
by Atlantis in2024-05-may-03-announcement.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/faad3e3dtranscripts for 2024 governing body update #3englishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/ce4ae1d8germanhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/3bf805be spanishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/a4e3fd3b frenchhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/d37d5822 russianhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/71fe8f28 grandpa!
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NotFormer
So they're walking back the tiny bit of freedom they offered the slaves regarding the dress code? It looks suspiciously like they announced the dress code freedom to prove publicly that they don't exercise any control over the flock, but in private the elders are to exercise something like the old policy. Then Bethel can resort to their usual "We can't be held responsible for the actions of a few overly zealous BOEs!" trick.
Of course, if they pull that sleight of hand trick often enough, perhaps governments and courts will start to ask them why they don't abolish the elder arrangement.
The WT probably doesn't care, they've been around a long time and are used to playing a long game*. Their trouble is, the same applies for most governments. The longer the WT keeps playing stupid games, the sooner they'll start winning stupid prizes.
*Despite the constant refrain of the end being imminent.
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Jehovah's Witnesses PIMOs: Beware Of This Great & Present Danger!
by Golden4Altar injehovah's witnesses pimos: beware of this great & present danger!.
to see the video that covers this topic, please click here:.
https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102.
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NotFormer
How about you summarise what this clear and present danger is? No-one seems to trust the link.
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Glad to see someone in the WT Art Dept has a sense of humour! "Church Lady" spotted singing!
by WingCommander inyou can't make this shit up!
lol!!!!
someone over on reddit posted this illustration from some wt publication or website or whatever.
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NotFormer
Even British soccer fans get together to practice the songs they sing at matches, so a bit of choir practice before a large group gathering probably isn't such a bad idea. Unfamiliar songs at churches are usually awkward. Not that you would know at one of the churches I've been attending recently: they play the backing tape so loudly that I can't hear the person next to me singing.
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Glad to see someone in the WT Art Dept has a sense of humour! "Church Lady" spotted singing!
by WingCommander inyou can't make this shit up!
lol!!!!
someone over on reddit posted this illustration from some wt publication or website or whatever.
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NotFormer
They did get into trouble for using a Jack Daniels (or was it Jim Beam?) ad on a magazine cover in the 80s. It had a different cover in the boxed set.
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Armageddon Car
by OnTheWayOut inhow many of you bought a nice sedan, suv, or even a minivan back in the days that you described as your "armageddon car" that you would care for and it would last until the end arrived?.
i was driving a 1974 plymouth volare wagon in 1992 when i managed to get an 8-year old buick century.
it was low mileage and had a very luxurious interior.
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NotFormer
These little snippets of WT days gone by are always fascinating to me! 🤓 I suppose every group has its own jargon, catchphrases and idioms.
I know that if I had ever told my mother that I was going out to buy an Armageddon car, she would've been expecting me to be driving something out of Mad Max. 😱
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Moving on in a new chapter
by redsetter2 inmoving on is the hardest thing anyone has to cope with.. i have officially left the org.
and now it feels my family have been waiting to do this for a long time, officially shunning me, even though they were practically doing this whilst i was still in.. it feels like i've accomplished a victory and at the same time i feel guilty i was tangled up in communication with someone who "hid who they were" claiming to leak information from bethel.
i got the call from the man who i thought i worked with.
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NotFormer
I seem to remember in a discussion years ago that even mentioning that there were hidden images and messages in WT literature would get you disfellowshipped.
It's possible that during the 80s, the GB's grip on the art department was not all that strong. It's always puzzled me that the perpetrators of that hoax weren't tracked down and purged, Ray Franz style.
It may be related to the purported struggle between the writing and service departments. Unfortunately, Jaracz won that one and weaponised the CSA cover-ups*.
*As always, the source is snippets I've read here.
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1,500 Days since Stephen Lett said this:
by Chevelle in"so the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we’re living in the final part of the last days.
undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days.
shortly before the last day of the last days.
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NotFormer
markweatherill, in the WT's defence, they made that statement on April the 1st. They might have had their fingers crossed, too. 😱
Are JWs allowed to cross their fingers 🤞? How do you make the sign of a torture stake? 🤔