A BIG HAPPPPPY BIRTDAY SMIDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not in sure which state you are in but if we were in the same one, I was and would join you for a drink. Have a great day, maybe they are planning a surprise.
i know being a witness for 33 years and not celebrating b/days you do lose the habit , but i thought one of them would have remembered ?
oh well .. maybe i will just rub it in with them tomorrow .make them feel guilty , eh ?.
then again i might just start singing "76 trombones" at the dinner table tonight .
A BIG HAPPPPPY BIRTDAY SMIDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not in sure which state you are in but if we were in the same one, I was and would join you for a drink. Have a great day, maybe they are planning a surprise.
thinking of leaving the jws for good is frightening.engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!there can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.. one must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.yes, that kind.
where you always make the decisions in your own life.. no need to be reckless and wild to destruction.
be like almost everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.
Everyone has to decide for them selves what they need to do. When my first husband and I learnt about TTATT he resigned immediately but it took me about 1 year and a half to fade.
My first husband left the same time as his parents but my parents are all in the cult along with my brothers and sisters.
I wanted to make sure I did not put my parents in a position where they had to choose between me and their religion because I know what the outcome would be.
About 5 years after we left our marriage broke up, and my parents were saying this was because I left Jehovah.
I raised my 2 kids as a single parent but was adamant I was not going back I did not want my children to go through the same mind f***** that I did.
My teenage kids got into all sorts of trouble that young kids get into today and I never thought I would experience so many ups and downs that I have.
But even through all the lows that I have had it is still so much better than feeling like a did my whole life being a JW. The getting ready for meetings, sitting in boring meetings, the waste of time, feeling not good enough and feeling guilty all the time, its is so mind numbing. You know what I mean.
I would rather live a life that is authentic, true and real no matter what happens, with no regrets of what I should have done.
Because I faded the right way my parents and brothers and sisters are all part of my life and my children's lives. My children are adults now and are doing so well, I am so proud of them and so are my parents.
I do not bring up religion with my family, but if my dad who is an elder tries, I have done the research and answer him back with scriptures and that usually cuts the conversations short, he doesn't want to know.
You have to decide for yourself, one day you will feel you can't stand it and the next day you might think you can it all depends on your situation, whether you are married or have children etc.
You don't have to make any decisions in a hurry. But before you take the step make sure you have support e.g., friends, where you live, what you do for work so that they have nothing that they can hang over you. And yes you can fade successful, the hardest thing for me was having to keep my mouth shut when people who were not my family tried to preach to me, I would just put a blank stare on my face and just smile.
Take care we have all felt the same way you are feeling now.
they take our trust our love our youth our family our friends our life our hopes our happiness our children our parents our vitality our minds our hearts.
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then they kill us.
They may have our families but they don't have us.
We have fought hard for our freedom, lets not take it for granted.
Long live freedom!!!!!
i was out shopping today and ran across a fantastic cross.
white and yellow gold.
i don't need to explaine the taboo of the cross.i bought the shit out of that crux necklace.
no justification needed
sometimes i get a strong curiosity to start dabbling into other religions, other faiths, you know?
really different ones such as islam, judaism, hinduism, etc.. has anyone here looked into something else?
has your spirituality been satisfied by any other than christianity?.
After I left the JW's, religion was the last thing on my mind. but I think we are still made to have some type of spirituality.
Everyone has different needs, the reason there is religion is because some people need the social interaction.
I tried a christian church, the singing was beautiful and it makes me happy when I go, but I have decided i don't need to serve god by attending a church.
I have found yoga and meditation this gives me peace of mind, clarity, and I helps me get in touch with who I am, I have been doing it for the past 2 years and I love it.
One of the biggest thing that has changed for me is accepting people for who they are, we are one family and the judgement is gone.
my family has been out (inactive no meeting attendance or field service) for just over two years..
weve made many changes in our lives, including with our personal appearances (tattoos, piercings etc) that are a pretty obvious sign that we arent going back any time soon.
our families went through a period of time about a year ago when they made a lot of threats that if we left the truth, they wouldnt even be able to share a meal with us, they would stay loyal to jehovah etc.
JW's can't help but talk about their religion and if they think they can save their grandchildren, they have to try.
I left when my kids were 5 and 8 years old, when they looked after my children I would make sure that after the visit with my parents, I will explain to my children how the JW's are wrong and to have compassion for my family as they are under mind control. and I explained to them how free we are now that we don't have to follow any man made rules.
We still need our family and I have now learnt how to have a relationship with my parents, If my dad tried to preach to me I decided to research and give him bible answers that would disprove his way of thinking, religion does not come into our discussions anymore, I think they have decided not to bring it up anymore and that I am a lost cause but I know they still love me and my family, And that all that matters.
so the fade is progressing well.... however, it has been noticed by the 'hounders', who i know will be "following up" with us soon i'm sure.. so i have thought of a way of shutting down the questions etc.... if they ask about things like meeting attendance and field activity, i am going to say something like:.
"oh, thanks for your interest and concern brothers.
this means a lot.
i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.
i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.
we went to meetings.
Oh, I grew up and got over it, I don't sit here and think about the time I didn't have a birthday party, I have got on with my life.
But I did visit my JW dad the other day, he had just turned 80 year old, a couple of days earlier, the only way I knew this happened is not because my JW family had told me, the only what I knew this is because I have my parents birthdays written down.
So when I visited my dad, who is the best dad in the world, all I said was"Oh you turned 80 a couple of days ago what a huge mile stone and it is so go that you a so healthy well done," I could tell that he was proud but he was not allowed to react.
No family get together, no family dinner, no celebration, nothing,
my wife just recently got back from the "cruise ship" from dave`y jones locker ,( hell) i`m not sure if it made news anywhere else in the world but it sure did here in australia.wife and her sister were on the" carnival spirit" 12 night cruise to the south pacific islands .2nd day out they had to try to skirt a cyclone , yet were still buffeted by strong winds and heavy seas .my wife suffers from parkinsons and takes medication for it , and has always been a bit of a panic merchant ,that`s just her nature coming home ,they encountered a catergory 2 cyclone that prevented them entering sydney harbour due to the rough seas .
7 to 9 metre waves were the norm , with a few 15 metre waves thrown in.this lasted more than 48 hours , causing them to stay another night out at sea ,and missing their flight back to melbourne.my wife did not cope very well at all with this experience probably due to her anxiety fear of water medication and some alcohol , plus the strong sedatives she was given { which she needed to cope } took a toll on her mentally .i was worried sick about her.
initially their were some issues with her sister that did not help matters either , though she did come good in the end.. thankfully , since the medications she was given has worn off , she is slowly coming back to normal , however i think it`s going to take a few weeks .. not being a medic , i think she had the closest thing to a nervous breakdown .. and to put things in perspective , she was not the only one who thought they were going to die.many people on board were scared out of their wits.. i just thought i would share what we went through this past week as a family .. smiddy.
Hey I saw it on the news, (Melbourne News) the waves were huge, I could't believe these waves were so big so close to the Sydney harbour.
Hope your wife is OK. Give her my love.
sorry for the long post but i need help.
ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.
a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.
All ex jws go through a range of emotions you are describing, so we all feel your pain.
You do not have to make any decisions right away, but I figured out that we were in a cult after I read "Crisis of Conscience" my husband stopped going to meeting immediately, but I felt that I would keep going to meetings and see how things went. I still have family in the JW's and did not want to get DF'd. When I was at the meetings, I would look up the scriptures that were quoted and read them in context, it got to the stage that I would get so angry because I could see they were twisting scriptures to suit whatever they wanted to teach.
My advice is to give yourself some time and research, research research, you will get to the truth. The JW's teaching will fall like a pack of cards once it has been put to the test.
You will go through a lot of emotions just like all of us here have, I left 25 years ago and still feel that I will never be normal. Because we were in a cult, there are a lot of hooks that are in our mind and we have to set free, e.g.; I still can't put a xmas tree in my house, although I know there is nothing wrong with it. I believe all ex jw's should have some type of therapy, although not all counsellors know how to help us.
But be very careful about your daughter because if she gets baptised she will feel that she will have to shun her own mother, I have a friend who were DF'd and she decided to get reinstated to that her children would talk to her again.
Everyone has to decide which is the best way they want to leave for themselves, but if you faded slowly you will have time to make friends with people that are not JW's. So the transitions won't be so traumatic.
Welcome to the rest of your life, "The truth will set your Free"!!!!!!