Sex....
who needs it, right???
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Sex....
who needs it, right???
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interviewer:has watching tv affected you?.
wyant:yes.
sometimes when i'm around people, i find myself just watching them-as if i was watching a tv talk show-instead of participating in the conversation.
You would've been just a few yrs too old, Simon. They asked for youths aged between 12 and 18 to sit in the seats.
I missed out by one year!
I don't have kids but mommy's story reminds me of when my niece was about 3, and she had a mini-tantrum (is there any such thing as a MINI-tantrum?) because her socks didn't match her undies!!!
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i have 3 sisters still in the org.
is it still called the "org"?
2 of them maintain no contact, one because i'm an evil apostate, the other is two faced about it(nice on the phone 2x a year, but does not let anyone know about the contact) the 3rd is pretty cool about it, we e-mail alot and i call monthly( all live 1200 miles away).
Crittersitter,
I'm sorry for what happened to you at your mother's funeral. Those that turned their backs on her and also waiting's daughter have clearly forgotten the Watchtower that was printed several years ago, stating that it was ok to help out df'd persons who were in need or some exceptional circumstance. One example was given if a df'd sister had a flat tire, and a bro saw her, it would be ok to help her out, as it would be simply an act of charity to another human.
My family (all Witnesses) were in a similar position when my aunt died. Her daughter was df'd about 15 yrs previously and my Dad, an ex-elder, wanted to be seen "doing the right thing". He researched it, and it wasn't discouraged to express sympathy to mourning ones who were df'd. Again, it was seen as an unusual event, not really a case of "socialising".
And as far as I saw it, I was comforting someone who had lost her mother in very tragic circumstances. I had also lost my mother in death a few yrs earlier, so I had compassion and fellow feeling for my cousin, and wanted to give her some comfort at a very sad time.
what hope can be kept alive, what pure premonition, what irrevocable kiss sunk in our hearts acknowledging the roots of need and the intelligence, self confident and smooth on always muddied waters?.
what live quick dreams of a new dream angel lock in our sleeping shoulders for perpetual posession.
our path between death's stars.
It is good!
Don't let the lack of replies get to you. I thought it was very profound. Maybe we were just too dumbstruct in awe to be able to say anything in return.
Edited by - Prisca on 29 December 2000 0:50:17
ok folks...i'm actually gonna stop lurking and post.... i am currently being 'studied' with to rectify my doubts (i'm baptized but considered inactive) i brought up the 607/1914 thing and the sister said she'd research it and get back to me... she didn't know about the 587 date (surprise surprise).
anyway she came back to me saying something about just having to count back 70 years or something and voila!
it was that simple... she also said the society had prophesied about 1914 being the end of the gentile times.... now i know that ain't so...there was prophecy yes, but it but it wasn't until after 1914 that the horn blowing started about the correctness of the date... 1874 immediately sprang to mind.
I've got a copy of The Harp of God and as Simon says (!) they used all the "modern" inventions of that time, "some of those things that have come to light since 1874, as further evidence of the Lord's presence since that date".
Napoleon is "clearly a fulfillment" of the prophecy about the "King of the south". Great Britain is regarded as the "king of the north" which is still believed today, as part of the Anglo/American world power.
Interestingly, it refers to the date, 606BCE, not 607BCE, obviously fogetting there is no Year Zero.
And in the whole chapter, "The Lord's Return", 1914 is only referred to in passing, as the date of the end of the worldly system of things. Whereas 1874 is given much more significance as the date for Jesus' second coming.
So it amazes me, when the Society claims it has been publishing the date 1914 from the very beginnings with Russell, when this book, which was copyrighted in the year 1921, clearly proves them wrong.
well friends i have posted a few poems of mine on h20 today so.
i will now post this one here.. i just finished it 30 seconds ago.. i hope you all enjoy it.. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
my horse is grazin' on the grass.
awww... nice poem. thanks for sharing.
earlier, i had asked about changes under the thread, "new truth".
your replies were interesting and informative, or should i say it was meat in due season and i found it upbuilding.
i have another question: is the new world view still the same.
Did you see the exerpt in the 192 page book, grey, about populating other planets? Which book was it? Within the last seven to ten years
TW, the book you're thinking of is "Worldwide Security Under the Prince of Peace", printed in 1986.
On page 184, in the last chapter, it says :
To all eternity our earth will bear a distinction that no other planet throughout endless space will enjoy, though the earth may not be the only planet that will ever be inhabited Emphasis mine
In other writings, such as when they're discussing UFOs, they say that there could be the possibility of other planets inhabited by lifeforms, but we wouldn't know for sure.
It would be rather haughty for us to imagine that we were the only creatures Jehovah created to enjoy life. We know that he created the angels and other spirit forms, so why not other life forms on other planets, in other galaxies, other solar systems?
as we all know the society has very strict guidelines regarding conduct between the sexes.
in the cong i grew up in, it was so small-minded that if you were single, and seen talking to a member of the opposite sex, you were presumed to be in some sort of relationship with him/her.. sex before marriage is out of the question, with heavy petting also looked down upon.
dating is a serious affair, with all onlookers expecting engagement/marriage to be the outcome.
AS we all know the Society has very strict guidelines regarding conduct between the sexes. In the cong I grew up in, it was so small-minded that if you were single, and seen talking to a member of the opposite sex, you were presumed to be in some sort of relationship with him/her.
Sex before marriage is out of the question, with heavy petting also looked down upon.
Dating is a serious affair, with all onlookers expecting engagement/marriage to be the outcome. I'm sure that quite a few unhappy marriages resulted due to the heavy expectations put upon them.
And once you were married, certain sex acts were not to be practiced, despite your own feelings about them. Now it's become a a "don't ask, don't tell" type thing, which still serves to put an air of prudishness over it.
So my question is, for those who grew up as a Witness, or one that was in it for a long while :
How did all of these restrictions and attitudes affect your own attitudes towards sex?
Did it make it more difficult to establish meaningful relationships with members of the opposite sex?
Once you started to have a sex life, did these restrictions and attitudes affect your sex life? Was your partner also affected?
And finally,
If you were detrimentally affected, how did you overcome or deprogramme your thinking so as to achieve a satisfying sex life?
I know that these are personal questions*, but it is an important area of our lives, and one that I think the Society has affected in a greater measure than it ought.
*If you don't feel comfortable posting your thoughts publically, you can email me. I would be interested in your responses.
those of you familar with witnesses.net may have seen me around the site, i've been posting there since early last year, and recently i was a moderator for a short time, before its sudden closure.. i was raised in the truth, daughter of a one-time elder and am a third generation jw.
i have seen a lot of changes in the society, some for the better, many for the worse.. i am now inactive, have not been to a meeting since the memorial earlier this year and not been in active witnessing since january 99.. so i am more out than in, though i have a few family members that are still witnesses, so i try not to put myself in the situation where i could be df'd.
(easy, avoid the elders!
Hello all,
Those of you familar with Witnesses.net may have seen me around the site, I've been posting there since early last year, and recently I was a moderator for a short time, before its sudden closure.
I was raised in the truth, daughter of a one-time elder and am a third generation JW. I have seen a lot of changes in the Society, some for the better, many for the worse.
I am now inactive, have not been to a meeting since the Memorial earlier this year and not been in active witnessing since January 99.
So I am more out than in, though I have a few family members that are still Witnesses, so I try not to put myself in the situation where I could be df'd. (Easy, avoid the elders! ;) )
So I just want to say hi. I was recommended this site by another witnet refugee, and I hope that we can share experiences and help each other.
:)