Flowerpetal said :
In the meantime, I give Goodwill Industries and have given furniture to the Salvation Army.
I wouldn't mind even doing volunteer work for an organization that visits hospitals as long as they are secular in nature. It's what I would let *myself* do. I would not join any *religious organization* that does volunteer work,
I don't know about Goodwill, but the Society classes the Salvation Army as being part of Babylon the Great. The Society once disapproved of giving to religious charities. Flowerpetal says she won't join these religious charities, yet she clearly does not see that giving to religious charities is supporting them!
At the end of the course, they have a decision to make and that is do they want to dedicate their life to Jehovah and symbolize it by water baptism. And they need to know that this baptism will identify them as one of JWs.
Is that what Jesus said would happen when he told his followers to be baptised in the name of "the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"? [Matt 28:19]
Hmm... I don't see a 20th century organisation mentioned here.
Can she give a talk at the hall just like a man? (of course with a householder but the information she brings out still benefits the congregation).
ROTFLOL! Flowerpetal really shouldn't have mentioned this one, as she just lost her argument!
Women are not allowed to give talks like the men do, period. The way they explain away women giving talks with a householder is that these talks are given as suggestions as how to present the info - so that the males can choose to accept those "suggestions" or not. (this is what my elder-father once told me)
One thing a lot of Witnesses that come to this board do, is forget that we who left have years of experience in the "truth" behind us. We are not idiots that have become foaming-at-the-mouth, satan-worshipping, drug-induced, sex maniacs that hate the Bible and anyone and everyone that calls themself a Jehovah's Witness.
We DO know what went on. We DO know how things operate in the Org. We still have family and friends in the Org. And we are normal people, really!!