And where do you think that the dark ages fit into this picture?
I was with you until this bit. What are you referring to?
BUt you have raised some good questions to ponder. Thanks.
just what if there was a war in heaven in the early 1900's and satan was the winner?.
since organized religion seems to be a tool of the devil lets take it a step further and say that the bible is a book that might of started out as a inspired book from god, however the devil has used it to his end to confuse and cause divisions among men.. there seems to be no good logic to the belief that satan was hurled down to the earth when he lost that heavenly war.
what does seem reasonable is that he won the war and that is why he was able to come to earth and cause all the hell there is today.. wouldn't you think that a loving god would have wanted to keep satan from the earth instead of throwing him down to us?.
And where do you think that the dark ages fit into this picture?
I was with you until this bit. What are you referring to?
BUt you have raised some good questions to ponder. Thanks.
i wonder, when some of the books that are not in print anymore .
--- because the light is getting brighter and all that, and the .
old truth does not need to be known by the newer jws --- .
So...
if I auction off my Vol 7 of "Studies in the Scriptures" ....
and the Society bought it...
then I might get back the money I donated over all those years!
who has the worst exaggerated story to tell about being a dub?
ex.. when i was a child we had to sit for fourteen hour assembly days in the hot sun without fans because they were not allowed for the other sheep.
we had to take shorthand of every word written in the talks and review our notes for two hours after the convention was over.
and don't forget those crocodile-infested waters....
i was just looking out the window, as it would happen a middle aged woman, or perhaps a young woman worn out with her life walked past.
she stopped on the edge of the mall where my wifes office is, and sat on a bench outside the window.
on close look, she couldnt have been more than late 30's, but probably only 35.. she sat for a while just looking at the ground in front of her, her face just exhibiting that blank look of the world weary.
Deacon, I was thinking about your post this morning. Thinking about how that promise of Paradise was just that - a promise. We thought we were already living in a spiritual paradise, yet it turned out to be a mirage.
I don't know exactly what I believe anymore. I believe in some things, but not others. I've accepted new beliefs, and rejected old ones. The rest, are yet to be determmined.
What I do know, is that it's not so important to view things in black and white anymore. I have the time to reflect, to accept and reject.
I am learning every day - about myself, about people, about life. It is exciting, and scary at the same time.
I rejoice that I now have a real choice over how I live my life. I have a freedom I have never known.
I am alive.
i'm sure this has been brought up before, but it gives me the willies(brrrrrr!
) to say the...jw words.
since i don't believe they are god's witnesses, then i can't say the words.
I know what you're saying TR.
Although I don't have any suggestions for you, it does remind me of when they told us not to refer to ourselves as "a Jehovah's Witness". That was too much of a noun, whereas "one of Jehovah's Witnesses" was the preferred (by the GB anyway) way of describing ourselves/themselves.
an amazing thing happened to me today.. i was in a neighbouring suburb, and wandered into a nondescript second-hand bookshop.
i asked where the religious books were, and the elderly shop-keeper pointed to the single shelf, stacked full with books.. amongst them was a faded red book entitled, "studies in the scriptures series 7 - the finished mystery".. i could not believe my luck.
here was a rare book, sitting innocently amongst books far younger than their companion.. i gingerly opened it up and browsed its contents.
Thanks guys for your comments.
10 points to Ozziepost for his observation. Although I failed to mention it, I did buy the book (of course I would, lol).
And despite the efforts of Tallyman - I ain't selling it mate! Sorry bro! Not even if you shouted me with a 1st class ticket to the States, with champagne on arrival, and... on second thoughts, what is your best offer, Tally? lol....
I can understand that there are some like Mulan who wonder why people like me (and Tallyman!) would covert such a book. Yet as uncanny said, "After making such a startlingly rare find, why would you want somebody else to own this unique piece of theocratic WT history - so much a part of your/my history - for a couple a hundred bucks?"
So I'm keeping it. It's in good condition (much better than the one presently advertised on Ebay) and it's MINE.
an amazing thing happened to me today.. i was in a neighbouring suburb, and wandered into a nondescript second-hand bookshop.
i asked where the religious books were, and the elderly shop-keeper pointed to the single shelf, stacked full with books.. amongst them was a faded red book entitled, "studies in the scriptures series 7 - the finished mystery".. i could not believe my luck.
here was a rare book, sitting innocently amongst books far younger than their companion.. i gingerly opened it up and browsed its contents.
An amazing thing happened to me today.
I was in a neighbouring suburb, and wandered into a nondescript second-hand bookshop. I asked where the religious books were, and the elderly shop-keeper pointed to the single shelf, stacked full with books.
Amongst them was a faded red book entitled, "Studies in the Scriptures Series 7 - The Finished Mystery".
I could not believe my luck. Here was a rare book, sitting innocently amongst books far younger than their companion.
I gingerly opened it up and browsed its contents. Yep, it was the real thing. But how much was it going to be?
I checked the price - $AUD3.80 - approx $US1.90
Is this a bargain? For those who have bought this book, either through second-hand bookshops, Ebay or the like, how much did you have to pay for this book?
Any comments?
i really like being here on this board.
i come to read it every day, and now i have the pleasure of reading others responses to my posts and commenting on theirs.
but, i am beginning to feel a resurrgence on that fear and paranoia that kept me from speaking up before.. after posting my notes on the convention, i began to feel a little guilty for ridiculing them when i know my son belives (as a result of my teaching) so strongly, and when i know so many good sincere friends at the kh who also believe so.
LMR
I can fully understand your paranoia at being "caught" on this board, expressing views against the Society.
I have at times given out info about myself on this board that I later think I shouldn't have revealed. But so far, no harm seems to have been done. I haven't been shunned by anyone, elders haven't been knocking on my door at odd hours un-announced.
Just be careful, remembering that anyone could be reading this, so don't give out anything that could really point to your location, identity, even where you work.
i received this from a mailing list and thought i'd share.. ginny.
a new publication is now available called reasoning with the sisters.
but more likely you are interested in your future.
LOL @ Jelly
NOW you're in for it!!
up late and feeling a little silly, i decided to do a search online for "kingdom hall.
" given the society's stance about the dangers of the evil internet, i was a bit surprised to find so many online.. at my favorite site, a kingdom melody in midi format plays when you enter.
if you click on "kingdom hall picture," a seductive, jazzy song plays.
Interesting bit of trivia about Van Morrison was given on the site :
The Morrisons were a fairly secular household, Protestant only insomuch as they were not Roman Catholic. Van could go to Sunday school at the Brethern Gospel Hall in the street, or to the slightly more middle-class St. Donard's, which was Church of Ireland. Then suddenly his mother became a Jehovah's Witness.
No one seems sure exactly how her conversion began or how long it lasted, but what is certain is that she became an ardent member of the local Kingdom Hall sometime during the 1950s. Some of the older members can still remember Van attending morning services with her, but George Morrison never made an appearance.Her sudden conversion must have had an effect on her son, because if she was sincere in her beliefs she would have read the Bible to him regularly, and issued stern warnings about the dangers of leading a life outside the Lord. It also compounded his feelings of being an outsider: who else in Belfast had a father who played Jelly Roll Morton records, and a mother who indulged in doorstep evangelism?
"I was just on the periphery", he says of his contact with the local Kingdom Hall. "My mother went for a few years. We didn't go to church all the time, but it was a very churchy atmosphere in the sense that that's the way it is in Northern Ireland".
* http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/glossary/kingdom.html