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  Christmas

  by Mahtaw in

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  was raised a jw, started fading out about 3 and a half years ago.

  i recently had a child, and my in laws are baptist.

  they love christmas.

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  notjust

  All holidays are false, given holi-day is a contraction for holy day.
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  Why are the moms so attached to religion?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  please don't take this the wrong way, i would love it for women to comment on this thread because i just can't understand something!!.

  here's the pattern i see:.

  mostly guys in here.. if the guys are married, their wives usually stay a jw, or it takes 3 times as much time to convince a woman to leave than a man.. if the guys have a jw father, the father is open-minded and can be more easily persuaded to leave.

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  Perhaps the answer is the same as why do the poor & illerate believe in god & religion most passionately. The more educated a person or society the less religion is present. On the other scale the less educated and more repressed, the more they willingly believe. Unfortunately many women are stuck w/ their lot and the last thing they have is some belief in a better world & god who cares even though he doesnt.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: If the 144,000 were not defiled by women, does that not make them ALL men?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  and unmarried, of course, since they are all virgins?.

  since you are taking this all literally, perhaps you need to re-read the verses carefully.

  if parts of this verse are to be taken figuratively then how do you determine the number, 144,000 to be literal?.

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  @prologos

  Women have been marrying women for thousands of years. Same goes for men and men.
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  Ouija Board!!!

  by XPeterX in

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  to those who don't believe in this shyt:you'd better not post here .

  ok...so you ever used it?what experiences do you have?were you able to summon a demon?what did he tell you?what did you see?i'm really curious and i wanna try it!.

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  mP

  But ouija boards were invented only 120 years ago...
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  Why do Jesus lovers accept the OT as god given.

  by mP in

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  given the ot has a lot of cruelties, hatred and so on, surely the fact these attributes, saying and actions far outweigh the supposed love of jesus why dont they say its all fake and throw it out ?.

  like what marcion did.

  wouldnt it be easier to simply delete the ot and move on ?.

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  COLD:

  Paul said he had grown to love the young man and that their common love of Christ would, he hoped, increase their love for each other and urged forgiveness and reconciliation.

  mP:

  SO why didnt Paul ask for his freedom ? Paul was an areshole. Anybody who supports slavery is an arsehole, plain and simple.
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  Why do Jesus lovers accept the OT as god given.

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the ot has a lot of cruelties, hatred and so on, surely the fact these attributes, saying and actions far outweigh the supposed love of jesus why dont they say its all fake and throw it out ?.

  like what marcion did.

  wouldnt it be easier to simply delete the ot and move on ?.

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  COLD:

  This is hardly a fellow who was working in the salt mines of Thessaly. And we know nothing of the situation other than the brief reference in scripture. Under Jewish law, people didn’t own each other. Interestingly, Paul wrote to Philemon: “For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him forever; not now as a servant, but above a servant , a brother beloved , specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh , and in the Lord ? If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself . If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account....”

  mP:

  No matter what you say, the master was an arsehole. In fact he was such an arsehole the slave ran away. If anybody repeated the masters actions today he would be condemned and sent to prison. Thank you Paul & Jesus.
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  Why do Jesus lovers accept the OT as god given.

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the ot has a lot of cruelties, hatred and so on, surely the fact these attributes, saying and actions far outweigh the supposed love of jesus why dont they say its all fake and throw it out ?.

  like what marcion did.

  wouldnt it be easier to simply delete the ot and move on ?.

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  COLD:

  Zechariah 12:10: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

  mP: How is this pointing to jesus. it doesnt say "god" or use his name or title ? Surely if god meant jesus he would say jesus.
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  Why do Jesus lovers accept the OT as god given.

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the ot has a lot of cruelties, hatred and so on, surely the fact these attributes, saying and actions far outweigh the supposed love of jesus why dont they say its all fake and throw it out ?.

  like what marcion did.

  wouldnt it be easier to simply delete the ot and move on ?.

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  Cold:

  Even though the Romans technically killed him, Jesus pleaded for their forgiveness, for “they know not what they do.”

  mP:

  The Romans didnt technically kill him, they did kill him. They are the law, all judicial actions are theirs alone.

  COLD:

  The Jews, however, knew exactly what they were doing and did not partake in that forgiveness. At the end of the battle of Armageddon, Jesus appears to the Jews, who will instantly recognize him as the one their fathers killed.

  MP:

  How can you possibly blame a jewish family on the other side of the country for jesus death ? They prolly never heard of him and they certainly were not there at the trial asking for his death. That idea of blood guilt is pathetic and stupid. I suppose we should also hang you or me because some ancestor stole a chicken a thousand years ago.
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  Why do Jesus lovers accept the OT as god given.

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the ot has a lot of cruelties, hatred and so on, surely the fact these attributes, saying and actions far outweigh the supposed love of jesus why dont they say its all fake and throw it out ?.

  like what marcion did.

  wouldnt it be easier to simply delete the ot and move on ?.

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  mP: Jesus spoke at his trial. One famous example being when he was asked is he the king of the Jews and he replied you said it etc. Another fail.

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  He answered Herod, who was appointed king over the land. But when he was dragged before Pilate, Jesus “opened not his mouth.” Pilate was the one who ordered his death at the insistence of the Jewish people

  mP:

  That doesnt change the fact you gave a prophecy that says the messiah would be silent. repeating the story back to us does not change the fact the propehcy failed.

  FAIL X2
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  Why do Jesus lovers accept the OT as god given.

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the ot has a lot of cruelties, hatred and so on, surely the fact these attributes, saying and actions far outweigh the supposed love of jesus why dont they say its all fake and throw it out ?.

  like what marcion did.

  wouldnt it be easier to simply delete the ot and move on ?.

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  mP

  mP: You are actually wrong, because Paul in Philemon tells the run away slave (sorry cant recall his name, its starts with O) to return to his master. P never condemns the master etc. You have just made that statement up.

  COLD

  It becomes a waste of time to try to educate you here, but Onesimus (the slave) not only ran away from Philemon, he took a substantial part of his master’s money with him.

  MP:

  YOur a fat liar, you said in this thread that xians were not allowed to have slaves even after knowing that is not true. A slave is a slave, dont play silly word games.

  COLD:

  Also, under the Mosaic Law, servitude was quite different than it was with slavery under Rome, and though Onesimus was most likely legally a slave under Roman law, he also enjoyed the restrictions the law of God imposed.

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  Masters can beat their slaves...

  When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

  Slaves can be raped...

  When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

  Want to apologise ?