perhaps the first q to ask about romans 1:26-27, is what does it really mean. it seems to condemn homosexuality, but it does say homosexuality, it could be talking about other things men do without women and kids. in the ancient world there were loys of man only activities like decision making, government, war and so on. the next part mentions men not using women for what is natural. does this mean only sex must be for only reproduction, and pleasure is wrong because it is a waste ?
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29Watchtower views on Homosexuality
by ttm1988 inafternoon all,.
a bit on my background.
i studied with the jw's a while ago in my teens, was acitve in meetings, and all the other things good witnesses do.
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A WAY TO SAVE THE 32 PAGE "AWAKE" MAGAZINE! ADVERTISEMENTS!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inprint magazines had to remake themselves around 2002, making themselves thinner, with more succinct articles.
in 2005-2009 the newspaper companies, magazines had to find more advertisers to stay afloat.
as i am writting this thread, there is a "i am a mormon ad" on the side bar.
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they could have discount dockets, im sure that would make it popular!
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Was Hong Xiuquan the returned Christ for Rutherford!
by mP infirstly most of us in the west are not aware of this very interesting character.
a self proclaimed brother of christ who at one stage actually had many thousands and millions of followers in china only 150 years ago.
the interesting point is his movment was about the time rutherford was young and it did not completely disappear until the early 1900s.
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ive heard similar stories. the same thing happened to a roman legion who somehow got lost and went into service for the chinese emperor. the doco talked about how archeologists found writings about the tortoso - turtle formation that the romans used.
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Was Hong Xiuquan the returned Christ for Rutherford!
by mP infirstly most of us in the west are not aware of this very interesting character.
a self proclaimed brother of christ who at one stage actually had many thousands and millions of followers in china only 150 years ago.
the interesting point is his movment was about the time rutherford was young and it did not completely disappear until the early 1900s.
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ive seen z the movie, but no i have seen other docos that superficially discuss tibetan and eastern religions. a look at japan or the land of rising sun makes it very easy to verify the center of their religion. many religions celebrate the equinoxes and/or solstices. these markers are very significant times of the year, which they needed to know in order to time crops and other activities.
im not sure if younare aware but all major jewish holidays are also timed around these markers.'hannukah=xmas=winter solstice. passover=spring eq=easter all which celebrate rejuvination and birth as befits the beginning of spring. look at the other holidays and its easy too see the astrological connection.
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THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN......an esoteric,existential point of view
by Wizard of Oz inposting guidelines: i have been told on this board that i am asking the same question as everyone else.
wrong; i maybe being irreligious, facetious, flippant or any number of silly things but asking questions isn't one of them.
i have my answers.. my belief is not up for discussion, because it is my belief.
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The ancients believed earth was for man and the heavens were for gods. I think i can confidently say without objections that many cultures believe this.
The Egyptians, Christians all believe that God is up there and we are down here. When you die so they say, your soul goes to heaven and you become a star just like god and his helpers. We can see this idea present in Christian and WTS art and teh Bible. Most of these cultures think that heaven is some perfect ideal place and earth would benefit from copying heaven to earth. This is of course the origin of the saying "As above so below", which is very much christian, esoteric, astrotheological etc. This is part of the belief that the zodiac infulences our lives, where each sign has super natural powers and likes to alter certain things in certain ways according to their speciality. Xians dont realise but they have a similar system, where instead of 12 signs they have but two sides, good and evil. In the xian case they love to assign all god things to god and all bad to Satan.
Its quite funny that this is but another example of the astrotheological thoughts that can be found in the BIble. Its unfortunate that most people see that light, good, bad, evil are merely talking about the good, warmth of the sun and its life bringing qualities and the bad, death and cold of night and winter.
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If the jw.org website is the start of the internet age for the WTS when will they sack all printing staff ?
by mP inwith the new website coming, does this mean they can fire many or most of their printing production staff ?
should these same staff be worried ?.
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With the new website coming, does this mean they can fire many or most of their printing production staff ? Should these same staff be worried ?
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What does Satan and 1/3 of all angels stand to gain by creating chaos?
by tootired2care in"and war broke out in heaven: michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven.
9 so down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called devil and satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
" - rev 12:7.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mythology)
The meaning of the name Set is unknown, though several pseudo-etymologies appeared in historical times, which suggest that the ancient Egyptians attached three meanings to the name: instigator of confusion, deserter and drunkard. It is reconstructed to have been originally pronounced * Suta? based on the occurrence of his name in Egyptian hieroglyphs ( swt? ), and his later mention in the Coptic documents with the name Set . [1]
The original god of CHAOS, was Set, which is also linked to Satan.
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What does Satan and 1/3 of all angels stand to gain by creating chaos?
by tootired2care in"and war broke out in heaven: michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven.
9 so down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called devil and satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
" - rev 12:7.
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And another sign was seen in heaven, and, look! a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems; 4 and i ts tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth . And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child.- Rev 12:3-4
When the morning stars joyfully cried out together,And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? - Job 38:7
MP
Thanks, but given Revelation is supposed to be prophecy, im not sure what to make of all that. Isnt this another scripture that shows the Bible is just astrotheology, god=sun, stars=lesser gods=angels.
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Woman was created first! It's science.
by wannabefree inwoman was created first.. every human being has 46 chromosomes arranged in 23 pairs, the first twenty two are autosomes, or matching, the twenty third pair matches in the female (xx), however, the male is mismatched (xy).. notice what is missing from that second x?
yes, one of its ribs has been removed.. clearly, in a female, since all are matching pairs, it makes sense that woman was created first as the male xy combination is the mutated pair.
why would god create the mismatched dna first?
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does it even matter ?
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SECRET LETTER of Watchtower Media Changes!
by TheSnarkyApologist inhere's a letter that has circulated among many ex-watchtowerites!.
just thought you'd want to know!.
awake!
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Ban the internet its full of porn, bomb and drug making recipes, how to build weapons, sodomy, birth day card sellers, xmas card sellers, easter egg sellers, ads for the blood bank, commericalisation of religion, cross sellers and more!