They have to be different from the other xian religions, otherwise why bother. Its the same reasons the Jews didnt eat pork or were circumcised. Theres no reason or justification for the two except for the symbolism.
Posts by mP
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more dump questions - do JWs pray to Jesus?
by new22day ini'm confused on this... do jws only pray to jehovah?
is the gb the mediator between jesus and the people?
i got the impression that for jws praying directly to jesus is not cool but i don't understand why?.
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After 2000 years since JC was executed ,why have we heard not a whisper from GOD ALMIGHTY ?
by smiddy inhe/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
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Question regarding Lucifer
by truthhurts13 inif one of the meanings of the name lucifer, is morning star, can someone please explain to me the last line in revelation 22:16?.
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mP
mP: there are many scriptures that back this up. The bible is simply astrotheology, where nature is worshipped and given silly stories. All cultures in the ancient world did it.
COLD:
And where do you find this?
If the Bible is “simply astrotheology,” what about the complexities and wisdom in its law?
MP:
The Egyptians and babylonians also wrote many complex works. They even built grand and complex buildings. Just look at the pyramids they are amazing.
The Mitzvot law is nothing to be amazed at. Its just another copy with variations.
COLD:
In a land full of ignorance, evil and gross wickedness, including sexual depravities and bloodshed, how is it that a religion emerges based on righteousness, honesty, integrity, virtue, kindness, justice, mercy and sophistication?
MP:
Are you referring to the kindness of slavery, where the master can beat the slave almost to death, or if shes pretty rape her ? Then we have the grand equality of women, who are nothing more than sexual playthings in the BIble. Im sorry Egypt had better laws, thats why it was great. Judea wit hits terrible laws was weak and pathetic.
The Bible lies about a grand kking of David and more. Nearly every grand story in the bible is a lie.
COLD:
It just popped out of a desert culture and, in the case of the Israelites under the thumb of the Egyptians, it blossomed forth from an uncouth, uneducated, servantile people? I’d find that highly unlikely.
mP:
The Egyptians were grreater. Just look at what they built and their science.
COLD:
This foundation of justice, mercy and righteousness wasn’t just a flash in the pan, either. It is found in the writings of Hebrew prophets throughout the generations. My point is that desert rats don’t just produce ideas and concepts that rival and even surpass the writings of the greatest of Greek philosophers. I don’t see it just popping out of nothing. Hebrew law influenced other great laws, including those of freedom found in Western Roman Law, the views of individual rights held sacred by the Greeks and Anglo-Saxons.
MP:
Everybody knows this is bullshit. Judea in the ancient world was a backwater, no inventions or technology or science.
COLD:
So blow it off on “astrotheology” (whatever that is); but it doesn’t explain the consistency in the law emanating, allegedly, from the Hebrew deity Yahweh.
mP:
How can you comment on something if you dont even know what it means or represents ?
As i stated before the Egyptians had a great system of law that is many times better than judaism. In fact major portions of the bible are copies of Egyptian texts. The jews copied their laws just like they copied the calendar, number system, writing, temple architecture, language and so on. There is little that is unique to the judaic culture. The vast majority of their life and how they lived it and the cutlure is a copy.
I already gave numerous examples, tehre are zilliojns in tbhe bible.
Psalm 84:11 (NIV) ~ For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favour and honour; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless.
I will give more if you are willing to actually address them instead of just talking along by yourself.
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Are You Upset My Miley Cyrus' Performance On MTV Awards?
by minimus ini'm not, even a little bit and i don't understand what the outrage is all about..
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mP
Miley only exists because they get attention and eventually money from selling their wares. do yourself a favour and ignore her and the many other losers like her. This is just like the Bible, its only alive if we talk and remember it otherwise it fades away into obsecurity.
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We are (not) representatives of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society
by VM44 inat one time jws were issued minister identification cards such as the s-65 in which it is officially stated that the bearer "is a representative of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.. now, the watchtower specifically tells the publishers not to say they are representatives of the watchtower!.
when did this 180 degree change take place?.
here is the text that appears on the front of the s-65 "minister identification card.".
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mP
Does this mean they are still Jehovahs Witnesses but not reps of the mother business ?
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Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT false prophets
by SloppyJoe intonight on the service meeting we discussed why jws are not false prophets.
of the ten minute part two were spent discussing that jws just had wrong expectations and only very minor changes over the years although nothing specific was mentioned.
the other eight focused on the core bible truths that have remained the same over the years.
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mP
Sloppy:
Shouldnt Jehovah have told them to write up in the WT and correct the false expectations before the time comes and fails ? Isnt that giving food at the proper time , aka before people get all warmed up and then the low of failure.
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Beside reading Thucydides the author of Daniel read Herodotus
by kepler inover a year ago, i engaged in a discussion on a similar topic.
it was titled, "has anyone read thucydides beside the author of daniel?".
since my annotated new jerusalem bible mentions a number of reasons why the text was probably written largely in the 2nd century bce to address events happening in that period ( the seleucid occupation and desecration of the temple), i was aware of a number of arguments for the case.
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mP
Wheres Lars when you need him. Im sure many here have made errors with their numbers and dates, and Lars knows how to compute using his 68000.
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UCant:
But jesus got his message wrong. All the believers thought it was their generation.
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NEW BIBLE
by The Searcher inthe following is part of an email from a retired district overseer in the states.
(source private).
"the new bible will be released at the agm and i understand only two versions will be printed from now on.
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mP
Given they write up Watchtowers from thin air ? shouldnt the translating committee be able to write down the entire bible from memory or dreams ?
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so which organization is Jehovah blessing?
by nowwhat? inso it is now widely known that bro russell got most most of his teachings from the adventists but the society says" jehovah blessed the bible students" .
why then are there now 17 million adventists and only 7 million jw's?.
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Jehovah must be blessing islam, are they not the fastest growing religion ? Every month they grow by more than all the JW i nthe world.