Soledad and Blondie are right...the WTS did have a circuit assembly hall in Monroe NY. It was in a beautiful hilly area of Orange County. About 1987, a number of hasidics from Brooklyn NY moved up to the area and began to build very large homes. Several families lived in each home. Over the next few years, many more moved to Monroe. Ultimately, they were able to get their section of the town separated from the Monroe town. They called their new village Kyrias Joel. The had their own village gov't, fire and police, and schools. They were completely independent. JW's in the Monroe area (Highland Congregation) tried to witness there. They were immediately run out. The witness were told not to return or else their would be problems with the assambly hall which was adjacent to the village. So the entire town was a DNC !! (Some JW's would try to speak to hasidics when they were alone in Monroe - with no success at all). About 1997, the WTS sold the ass'y hall to the hasidics. They wanted to build a large assembly hall near the Patterson Farm but were not allowed by the town to do so. Just recently, they completed an assembly hall in Newburgh NY (near I 84)...
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Hasidem Territory
by Blueblades inrecently jh.asked about bad doors.has anyone had a whole territory of bad doors,such as a whole community of orthodox jews.
the hasidim are members of a sect of jewish mystics that originated in poland in the 18th cent.and that emphasizes joyful worship of an immanent god.
they do not take lightly proselytizing in their community.anyone have any experiences they would like to relate about working these territories.
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Helen "Cookie" Lundell
by proandcon inanyone know of her whereabouts?
last i knew she divorced and left upstate ny for somewhere in ohio.
da's from the jw's about 9 years ago.
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proandcon
Anyone know of her whereabouts? Last I knew she divorced and left upstate NY for somewhere in Ohio. DA's from the JW's about 9 years ago. Ex still lives in NY near WT Farms? Anyone....
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Commuter Bethelites
by Blueblades inare there any here who were commuter bethelites.i would enjoy hearing about your experiences when you were a commuter bethelite.how did you become one?what was the requirements?and do they still have cb's anymore.when did they stop it?blueblades
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proandcon
Blueblades...I wasn't in the commuter bethelite program...my daughter was...and some in our congo in upstate NY near the WT farms were...JT is right...these people were run ragged...to them though, especially the pioneers, it was a huge relief from going door to door...being a commuter was considered a privelege which was a sacred service...you could count your time while there...real easy...they did it at the farm when they needed additional labor (re construction, farming, etc) but didn't have room for people to room. it was at its peak in NY when Patterson was being built...as the skilled labor came from all over and many lived at the Farm while the locals did the dirty work at the farm as the skills wen to build Patterson. I believe it ended about 4 years ago officially. Only a very small handful were rewarded with becoming a full time bethelite...only those fwe with real skills WT needed...I know of a nurse, a draftsman and an auto body man who are still full time coming from the commuter ranks...of course in time, the commuters, with all the farm priveleges (Monday night WT study, family night, morning worship, rubbing elbows with the heavies, etc) often became more aloof to the regulars in the congo ...some became more haughty and judgemental given their new position...some were kicked out of the program (too lazy)...many liked it because it was "easy time".
Once the commuter thing became known outside the area, many single sisters came from all over the US to try to take advantage of this entry in the Farm...to work...and ...ahhhh...to "rub elbows" with the "cream of the crop" (studs) working there...it was like bees to a field of flowers...quite entertaining...the WT management had to put a stop to them coming...they had little $ and no where to live...more importantly, they were stealing the WT farm boys in marriage...quite entertaining...
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Printing /Jehovah Ain't Paying!
by metatron inhere are some choice phrases quoted from the letter (dated oct. 28) sent to congregations about changes in printing:.
"saved us millions of dollars" , "additional savings" , "consolidated savings of money.
and manpower", "less personel and more savings".
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proandcon
Outanfree...what they say to the mass of R&F and other readers is one thing...what happens behind the scenes in the "business" of religion is another...cash is the blood of any organization...for whatever reasons, the management feels a need to get a better handle on expenses and effeciencies.
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Printing /Jehovah Ain't Paying!
by metatron inhere are some choice phrases quoted from the letter (dated oct. 28) sent to congregations about changes in printing:.
"saved us millions of dollars" , "additional savings" , "consolidated savings of money.
and manpower", "less personel and more savings".
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proandcon
Met...like most large international organizations today, the WTS is looking for ways to become more efficient and cost effective. Many companies are also seeking to shed assets and locate to areas of lower cost...just for survival. The WT is the same. They could make millions selling the prime real estate they have in Brooklyn (some recently refurbished or built). Additionally, they could better utilize the many acres in Wallkill mort effectively, especially since they ceased farming there and are now purchasing most of the food products from distributors. As far as shipping is concerned, they will still only be about 65 miles from the port or major airports. Also, Stewart Airport in Newburgh NY has freight service and is only about 10 miles away. They are under cost pressures like most everyone. Their revenue streams are less predictable. They have some real exposure with lawsuits for sure (but likely have some insurance coverage). Like others, they surely have seen large declines on their marketable securities and are receiving a significant reduction in interest income given today's low interest rates. From a strictly financial perspective, they.re trying to "stay alive".
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ex-Brooklyn Bethelites on this site
by James2300 inhey everyone,.
i've never posted on any of these site before but i thought this might be worthwhile.
i was at brooklyn bethel from 1998-2001. i worked in the laundry.
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Golden Girl...I know both Josh and Jake B very well...Josh is not df...he lives with is wife in Georgia. Jake was df'd twice...once in NY...then reinstated...then again in Richmond Va where he now lives...the B family still lives near the KH in NY...maybe I know you too...let's talk...
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WT goofie phrases.
by Pepper ini used to get into trouble for making light of the these phrases that some elders have told me are to be used only gods people.
lol that you all may know maybe:.
"well, brother that is very "commendable," just before the meeting ends the po says to those in attendance "brothers the time left is reduced," i once heard a co say to those seated during one of his talks "well now, we don't want to die at armageddon now do we, well of course not.
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Some other unique gems...
The "good news"(billions get slaughtered)
"Service car"
Worldly person
Materialistic
Not spiritual
Jehovah's "clean" people
Keep separate from the world
"No part of the world" (especially taking freebies from the gov't)
PlacementsReturn visitsnot at homeshome but hidingDo not call
Territory (like in Manhattan)
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Bethel waiter crew 1990-1993?
by SpiderMonkey inlooking for my old pals who may have left the borg... love, mike "flash" casey
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proandcon
Muke...were you at WT Farms or in Brooklyn? What congregation did you attend?
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Grandparents
by Granny Linda inhappy holiday, everyone.. i just wanted to say that being a grandparent is one of the greatest joy's.
i know there are other grandparents posting on this board who are proud of their offspring, too.. gosh, for all those lost years of having been raised jw - not really getting to know my maternal grandparents except through the eyes of an emotional jw.
sheeezzzzz.
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proandcon
I'm a grandpa of 4 including twins...I love every second of being with them and watching their personalities grow and their minds expand...it is truly a gift...and we get to have an active and positive (I hope) part...I also can really appreciate the "yogism"
...if I knew having grandkids was so great, I would've had then first !!!
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Was it normal to have so many meetings?
by JH inhow many meetings a week, do you think we should have had in order to be reasonable and not overdone?
maybe 30 or 40 years ago, when woman didnt work, or when life was a little easier, that all these meetings every 2 days was ok, but today with life being so stressful, and with all the time it takes commuting, is it normal to still have so many meetings.
nothing changed in the last 50 years as far as meetings go.
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proandcon
In this "time of the end"(TM), I'm surprised they don't look to have more meetings...maybe 8 day DC's will come back...