Posts by Wayward

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The Vietnam War and “Higher Education”

by My Name is of No Consequence in

a few weeks ago, i was chatting with a brother who is well into his 80’s.

he went to college, got his bachelor’s degree and was a school teacher for many years.

during that time, he was an elder in his congregation, had many privileges and cared for his young family.

Wayward

I am a tradeswoman, a carpenter, and I can honestly say I wish I'd gone to college. The pay is decent, when I'm working. Therein lies the problem. New home construction is non-existent in my area and has been that way for years. The area I live in is dying. Jobs are leaving. People are leaving. No one is moving here. I'm laid off right now and not sure if I'm going to be called back. I may have to find a new line of work. Probably should.

I'm 40 years old and have been in this field since I was 16. It takes a terrible toll on your body. So kids, be smart. Please. Get an education. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't or shouldn't. Trust me. Being unemployed and struggling to pay your bills is no fun.

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ls homosexuality really normal?

by atomant in

l know animals do it but their animals.they dont live by a moral code.the thought of 2 men going for it is not normal.what are your thoughts?.

Wayward

Is it 'normal' to be obsessing about what two consenting adults might be doing with each other?

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The Watchtower try to give a modern twist to the scriptures.

by StephaneLaliberte in

i was listening to the september broadcasting, where david splain talks about how jacob met with esau.

david splain: how did jacob react?

did he try to show how important and prominent he had become?

Wayward

Bilhah and Zilpha were Leah's and Rachel's slaves. They had no choice. Which doesn't look so good for old Jacob. A predator who took advantage of the vulnerable.

And what a coward! Hiding behind women and children to shield himself!

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"Explaining Your Beliefs About Homosexuality"

by wizzstick in

it's doing the rounds but i've not seen it before.. explaining your beliefs about homosexuality.

there are three pages.

here are my thoughts on each question on the pages:.

Wayward

JW- "I don't hate you. I hate that you're gay. So I'm going to shun you and treat you like you're crap until you stop being gay. But I don't hate you." Uhmmmm...riiiiight.

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"You Can Do Just Enough Ministry To Dislike It"

by pale.emperor in

when you were "in" did you ever actually enjoy the ministry?

and i made no secret about it.

instead i would joke about me feather knocking, and made sure i had my bible in hand so as they come to the door they know what im about so they can shut me down before i even start.. i always wondered how or why there were people who enjoyed it.

Wayward

Hated every aspect of it. I was very shy as a kid and it was sheer torture going to strangers' doors. And then wanting to die of humiliation when a classmate or teacher would answer. Spending summers in dowdy, hot dresses and those friggin nylons while normal people were at the pool. I started having panic attacks out in FS when I was a teen. Know what an elder told me? "It's 'just' a phobia. Get over it!" Ah, the loving shepherds of the flock!

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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.

by Bonsai in

i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.

"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?

", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.

Wayward

Absolutely no truth whatsoever to what your 'friend' said. I had doubts for YEARS before I ever dared start doing any research and left. And you can tell him this 'mentally diseased apostate' is not a prostitute, the only man I ever had sex with was the one I married, doesn't do drugs, smoke, and has never been drunk. I do not and never have had a desire to set myself up as a rival cult leader. (Because all us apostates just want cults of our own, you know!) I know for a fact I've lived a more moral life than many JWs I can name.

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E-Harmony Dilemma

by Iamallcool in

well, i messaged someone on e-harmony and she messaged me back.

i did like her at first and she likes me too.

we exchanged more than 10 messages till i find out yesterday that her best friend is a tarot card reader.

Wayward

1) Her friend is the Tarot card reader, not her. So what's the problem?

2) Demons will not reach out and grab you if you have a relationship with a lady whose best friend reads Tarot cards. Pretty sure.

3) Why so judgmental of who this lady's friends are? Just remember, she could be silently judging YOU for having been a JW or having friends who are into things SHE doesn't like.

4) Demons will not reach out and grab you if you have a relationship with a lady who actually reads Tarot cards. Pretty sure about that too.

I love reading books about the paranormal and have several in the house. I have NEVER had anything 'demonic' happen.

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The Cult Guide To Raising Children

by pale.emperor in

something you're not likely to see in the "secret to family happiness" book.

the borg's guide to raising children:.

put the borgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time.

Wayward

Make sure you make your kids feel like dirty perverts if they masturbate or if they so much as peep at a member of the opposite sex.

(But its ok for the org to allow child rapists to run around the hall. Don't you dare question it!)

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The insanity continues

by FedUpJW in

as if anymore proof were needed that what used to be the religion i was baptized into has ceased to exist i was asked this insane question, when i mentioned to a jdub that someone i knew was celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary.

are they witnesses?".

i didn't used to really think about that insane question in the past, but now that i have woke up to ttatt it is glaringly obvious that they think there can be no chance of actually knowing and getting along with anyone outside their tiny circle of conditional friends.

Wayward

Neveula, Diogenesister has it exactly right. If you die five minutes before Armageddon starts, you get a free pass into Paradise. Die a second after it begins, sorry, you're out of luck. Sick, twisted, and wrong-headed, but that's what they believe.

And Witnesses never 'befriend' non-JWs without an ulterior motive: to convert you. If you refuse to convert, they drop you like a piece of garbage and move on to someone else. Once you're in, they may still drop you because there's now no incentive to keep being nice to you; you're already hooked and they're on to someone else to convert.

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Question about an elder and if I am crazy

by life is to short in

ok so i have a question.

i was a very, very true believer until i saw the child molesters in my hall and how that whole thing was handled.. my husband is older than i am and had been an elder for 12 when we married.

so fast forward to 06, we are in a hall where i thought all the elders were ok at the worst and great at the best.

Wayward

LITS, you aren't the crazy one here. HE is. He is a whack job and you need to keep well away from him. Make it VERY clear, in no uncertain terms, that he is NEVER to talk to you, send you emails, call, or have any other contact. If he does, you will call the police on him for harassment. Send a certified letter stating your wishes. He'll have to sign for it and that way can't deny he got it. Then carry it through if he disregards your wishes. Save any emails, voicemails, or letters in case you need proof to show the police or a court. Inform the other elders you'll take legal action against them too if they don't rein this scumbag in.