I think I prefer the spaciousness of a Zen garden. Did you ever see how high their ceilings are?
proplog2
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Blessed?
by Kenneson inthe following quote is from the watchtower, october 15, 1993, page 11:.
"spacious kingdom halls, expensive sound equipment, assembly halls, and attractive bethel homes bring glory to god and offer a silent witness that he is blessing his people.".
if this is true of jehovah's witnesses, should it not be equally true of catholics, who through the centuries have constructed the vatican as well as magnificent cathedrals?
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Is Virginity All It's Crack'd Up To Be?
by Englishman inseems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
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proplog2
The concept of virginity has little to do with sex. It IS a component of a certain type of society that has family security as its highest priority. Men who don't value virginity are men without honor. Women who don't value virginity are simply prostitutes doing a little advertising.
If you weren't a virgin when you got married AND you haven't remained married you will never really know the value of virginity.
All women are born virgins. They either give their virginity or they lose their virginity.
I am talking about a much nobler system than you will read about in books with titles like:
233 Ways to Drive Your Man Wild.
Penis management is the most important work of religion.
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What is Creativity?
by onacruse in.
some people say it's their music; expression of heart and soul.. some people say it's their research; expression of their mind.. some people say it's fishing; absence of expression of anything...just living in the moment.. some people say "it's because i'm on a db, expressing myself.
for myself: creativity is finding something where nothing was before...and then discovering that it was already discovered.
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proplog2
Onacruse:
I appreciate your effort to avoid conflict but Idiot is usually an offensive term. Until Farkel says otherwise I will believe that he meant to offend.
As to AI. Creativity can be simulated by the introduction of some sort of randomizer.
Creativity is not unique to humans or even "minds". Just think how creative evolution is.
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Is Virginity All It's Crack'd Up To Be?
by Englishman inseems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
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proplog2
Women should always make sure they get paid enough for sex. Marriage is a promise of a man to provide for a womans security the rest of her life for her sexual favors.
Occasionally you find a young stupid female who will give away sex for nothing.
Men can't give away sex for nothing.
Try this experiment. Take one average looking woman. Have her stand next to a sign that says FREE SEX. Do the same with an average looking man. Count the number of people in line for each. Then tell me who needs to get paid enough for sex.
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What is Creativity?
by onacruse in.
some people say it's their music; expression of heart and soul.. some people say it's their research; expression of their mind.. some people say it's fishing; absence of expression of anything...just living in the moment.. some people say "it's because i'm on a db, expressing myself.
for myself: creativity is finding something where nothing was before...and then discovering that it was already discovered.
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proplog2
Farkel:
Are you calling all of us here idiots?
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What is Creativity?
by onacruse in.
some people say it's their music; expression of heart and soul.. some people say it's their research; expression of their mind.. some people say it's fishing; absence of expression of anything...just living in the moment.. some people say "it's because i'm on a db, expressing myself.
for myself: creativity is finding something where nothing was before...and then discovering that it was already discovered.
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proplog2
Creativity is being accident prone in any medium.
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Hi, I'm new
by danidancer ini'm a 30 years old women.
i was witness for about 11 years and left them 3 years ago.
it's been a very hard time to get used to the reality.
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proplog2
Dani:
You seem to have an East European style of writing. Do you care to say which country you are in?
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Real Meaning fo Moscow Ban on JW's
by proplog2 inthose in this forum who cheer the russian ban on jw's are letting their personal feelings get in the way of seeing the significance of undemocratic behavior.
i submit the following brief article from washington post june 18, 2004. .
veering from reagan.
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proplog2
Farkel:
You know we are really on the same side--- of the Hexagon.
But you do tend to be a fallacy monger. You have demonstrated a kind of obsession with identifying fallacies in posts.Such pouncing on others creates more alienation than clarification. The fallacy you were trying to point out, in a pedantic fashion, was not even my central thesis but actually a casual comment. When you point out errors that have no significant bearing on the basic thrust of the argument you only delay the progress of the discussion and divert attention away from the point at issue.
I personally love to be caught using a fallacy because it improves my level of argumentation. I will definitely admit it when I am caught. I'm not guilty of the slippery slope fallacy BUT I must say I think you caught me on the "false dilemma" fallacy.
When you and I have a discussion (and we both usually avoid locking horns) we should probably avoid even using the word fallacy OR the names assigned to fallacies because people are often turned off by such technical jargon. We are both capable of more imaginative ways of focusing attention on patterns of faulty reasoning.
Finally (and I hope this to be my final statement on this thread) I want to repeat my disappointment that you think banning JW's in Russia is a constructive and just ruling.
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Real Meaning fo Moscow Ban on JW's
by proplog2 inthose in this forum who cheer the russian ban on jw's are letting their personal feelings get in the way of seeing the significance of undemocratic behavior.
i submit the following brief article from washington post june 18, 2004. .
veering from reagan.
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proplog2
Farkel:
Do you really think banning a religion is good for society? You said:
Hooooooray for Russia!
Am I taking that out of context in any way?
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Real Meaning fo Moscow Ban on JW's
by proplog2 inthose in this forum who cheer the russian ban on jw's are letting their personal feelings get in the way of seeing the significance of undemocratic behavior.
i submit the following brief article from washington post june 18, 2004. .
veering from reagan.
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proplog2
Farkel:
You still don't understand what I said. AND OR you don't understand the slippery slope fallacy.
The slippery slope fallacy consists in assuming, without appropriate evidence, that a particular action or event is just one, usually the first, in a series of steps that will lead inevitably to some specific consequence. This is also known as the camel's nose fallacy. You let the camel poke his nose in the tent and pretty soon you will have the whole camel.
I am not proposing a series of events. I am not even predicting a future outcome of banning JW's. I said that if you are going to follow the principle of applying the law equally to all cases then you would have to ban all religions. Well I would concede perhaps not ALL religions. There are probably some religions that are so weak in their influence that they are a threat to no-one. But certainly the behavior of the Russian Orthodox church which is behind this mischief would make it an equal candidate for banning. I am not predicting that banning ALL religion will be the outcome of this laughable court ruling. In fact I would predict that this decision will be reversed when it is scrutinized by world opinion.
Now then do you see where the scheme for "slippery slope", "domino", "camel's nose" or whatever you want to call it doesn't fit in any way what I was saying. What I said would never even be selected as an example of this particular fallacy. The key is a SERIES of events. I am not proposing a series of events, am I ? And since I am not proposing a SERIES of events there is ABOSLUTELY NO SLIPPERY SLOPE. NONE! ZILCH! NADA!
Here is a typical example of slippery slope. Farkel is out to prove his manhood. If you let Farkel get away with one false accusation then the next thing you know he will embolden himself to make false accusations on other threads. This will totally side track every thread where he tries this. Pretty soon it will be impossible to post anything because along will come Farkel misapplying some fallacy to prove his manhood. People will then be afraid to post anything because they won't want to get caught up in endless posts defending themselves against Farkels manhood enhancing assaults. Eventually people will just quit posting and that will be the end of this whole forum.
Of course I don't believe any of that. But it is an example of the type of Fallacy you are trying to nail me with. Did you notice the SERIES? First this happens, then that will happen , and this result in something else and finally the worst thing happens.
I simply said that if you believe that justice is done when laws are enforced equally to punish ALL wrongdoers then ALL those guilty of the same or similar offences should ALL receive the same punishment. But I repeat that ain't gonna happen cuz the Ruskies are wacked. The whole world knows what is going on there and it is not acceptable to the world community.
You also seemed confused by the way I constructed my premise and conclusion. I said you would have to ban all religions if the objective was to be fair/just. I didn't say that they would ACTUALLY BE FAIR. If they were fair they wouldn't ban any religion at the instigation of another religion.
This is where you wrongfully take my words out of context.
I didn't say "If you ban Jehovah's Witnesses you would have to Ban all religions" Well yes I did say that but I didn't say that without qualifications. Immediately before I said THAT I said "...it is also the responsibility for a government to apply the law equally to ALL citizens." THEN I said If you ban Jehovah's Witnesses you would have to Ban all religions. PLEASE NOTICE THIS IS NOT A SEQUENCE.
I really don't believe you were setting up a straw man. It is too obious that you misunderstood what I said. But how could someone so smart mis-understand such a simple statement?