this was pretty easy actually.
so what if i sit down for a second?
same in the air-conditioned room where we made the foreign language orders.
Hi and thanks for that. Insightful.
Also, over at JWRecovery there's an ex-Bethel guy who's given a very insightful time spent there when 9/11 happened. He goes by the name of ephemeros and called his thread "Draconian Sweatshop Experiences" or similar. He was really affected by what life was like there, a real eye-opener. It's in the category of Practices and Beliefs.
Again - thank you. It's great to hear testimonials from 'inside' the inside.
my younger brother quit the family pretty much when he was 16. that's when he left all the jw crap behind.
boy, i wish i had turned and left with him!
over the years i've seen him on and off.
That's so great. So happy for you
so the co is in town...sorry i can't disclose much info....i haven't done anything wrong that warrants no longer serving as an ms....but the co is thinking of deleting me as an ms (my parents are aware)....i really hope he does as this will make my fade much more easier...... freedom is just around the corner i hope.... peace.
kool jo.
It's been said before, but real friends will still be your friend.
And if they look at you like you should quarantined for some kind of potentially fatal disease, then it's their loss.
Have you got non-JW friends? They'll be the ones to help you through the fading process.
Best wishes on your journey to freedom and a better life.
Because you've become invisible? All hail the invisible parousia of No Regrets.
i'd like others' thoughts on this development for me.. i was disfellowshipped seven years ago and made up my mind never to return some two years ago.
most witnesses have shunned me, of course, but there are some still in the organization who associate with me.
one of them lives in southern california and has never ceased supporting me in various ways.
Hi Quendi. It's been a week or two since I've been on the forum and I've just read your blog. I'm an Aussie, and travelled for 6 months like a gypsy across the U.S. in 1991, living out of an old Ford Squire wagon me and then-partner bought in San Bernadino. Are Piggly-Wiggly stores still around the south-east? Sometimes when we stayed at KOA campgrounds across the southern states the people running them were real die-hard Christians - "praise the lord," and "I hear what you're sayin'." Well-meaning, but they give me the creeps. The rhodadendrons growing wild in the forests through Tennessee and Kentucky etc were magical - nothing like Australian forests, that's for sure. We stayed in Evergreen in Colorado with some locals we met. Just beautiful. I really loved the American people.
Anyway, about your Californian friend. He already knows your position about the JW religion. So I'd say look forward to your holiday together as old friends, and don't raise the subject of religion. Let him raise the subject if he wants to. Then you reiterate how you feel.
Many years ago I met up with an exJW girlfriend I hadn't seen in years. We were both still single, and as we were driving down the road together we talked about lots of things other than religion. Then she confided to me she'd been disfellowshipped for fornication, but after a year she decided it was too lonely out in the world, and got reinstated. My only comment was that I'd found lots of friends 'in the world' who are very good people, and liked my life as it is. That was fine by her. She was pretty understanding.
Later, when I found Franz's Crisis of Conscience I rang her with the exciting news about some of the things I'd found. She got really huffy and said that book is full of lies. I asked her in all innocence had she read it? She said no, and almost hung up the phone in my ear.
Your friend, unless he's since had a change of heart about the JWs, might still be trying to save your poor soul.
So, that's my take on it. No doubt when the time comes for you, you'll get the appropriate gut-feeling on how to proceed.
Best wishes, and keep in touch to let us know how things go, eventually.
Flossycat
i'm not going to post the link here as i both want it to be completely anonymous (no connection to me on any other website) and i don't want to violate forum rules.
they are theories i developed based on being raised as a jw and taking philosophy classes.
please reply to this if you'd like to check it out and give me feedback and i will pm you the link.. thanks.
Have PM'd you. Look forward to reading
we go down to the river almost every evening of late and watch them.
the goslings have mom and pop in front and rear!.
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Beautiful
as some of you know, i started college 5 years ago for the first time at age 27. i had been out of the "truth" for 9 years at that time, but had just broken free of the mentality.
well, on saturday i walked across the stage with the 130th graduating class at rocky mountain college!.
after 5 years of working several jobs, taking care of two little boys as a single mom, and trying to get the most out of my college experience, i earned my master of accountancy, bachelor of science in business management, and minors in writing and organizational leadership.
Hi Rocky_Girl, and BIG CONGRATULATIONS So glad your parents were there for you, too.
Best wishes from Flossycat. Melbourne, Australia
hello all, i've just discovered this site and i cant begin to describe how happy i am to have come across it.
i stumbled across this site purely by accident...seriously i was looking at arkham city walkthoughs and a few jumps later i end up here.
i though it was a legit society page at first and thought 'what the hell, this will be good for a laugh', but after reading a few posts well...i couldnt stop reading.
Hi BGB. Good on you! Wished I'd kept pushing doubts I'd had as a JW kid - like the nephilim that were still in the 'promised land' post-flood, etc. The 'annointed class' - what a joke - aside from their 'other sheep/great crowd' garbage, the whole of Revelation symbolic, yet 144,000 literal? The whole deal, on and on is so screwed up.
Look forward to hearing more from you.
Flossycat. Melbourne, Australia.
i was raised as a jw, baptized in a 1998 district convention, somewhere in portugal.. studying with jws had some positive things (not many... just a few).
i learned to read before going to school and developed this excelent skill of reading, interpreting and resuming texts.
i was an excellent student.. as a teenager my life sucked (and i considered it a "privilege" at that time) because i simply couldn't enjoy these best years of my life, because had to avoid all contact with people of my age (there were no young people in my congregation) so i lived the best years of my life as a "forever alone".
Hi Jamir, and welcome. Isn't it so good to be able to think for yourself?
The above books and websites recommended will help you to plan your next steps. Be patient with your wife. She'll be frightened and feeling insecure with everything for a while.
Another book you might consider: 'God Is Not Great' by Christopher Hitchens. It'll provide you with some good topics for discussion with your wife - but gently, gently does it. Best not tell her where you're getting yor information from.
Look forward to hearing more from you. Your English is v good
Best wishes,
Flossycat. Melbourne, Australia.
