Posts by BreathoftheIndianNose

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Is it GOOD that God KILLS BABIES??? Help needed in debate

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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[endif]hello all,.

my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.

BreathoftheIndianNose

Also this subject is something I really tried to get my mom to see as well. She has a real affinity for children, as mothers do, so I tried my best to get her to picture the scene. I would tell her 'mom just imagine what it would have been like for the children living their lives happily in their city when this unknown tribe (Israelites),came and slaughtered everyone, their friends, their parents, their brothers, right I front of their eyes, only to get kidnapped and raped.' I tried to get her to imagine the scene. I could tell it disturbed her but she was able to justify it in her mind by saying that they will be resurrected. I let her know about all the problems that brought about, but she wouldn't hear any of it. So you might expect a similar situation.

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Is it GOOD that God KILLS BABIES??? Help needed in debate

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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[endif]hello all,.

my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.

BreathoftheIndianNose

DON'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION!!! When I was talking/debating my parents as I was on my way out, I found their reactions to be, ehem, interesting. This is what i found.

I could say bad things about the bible, even though they wouldn't like it, but they could deal with me questioning its thouroughly.

I could question gods existence and even his intentions, without there being a huge ordeal,( they weren't very impressed but it wasn't the end of the world).

But as soon as I would say anything bad about the organization things would get ugly! "Don't ever insult OUR religion", they would say.

Just get her to question things, don't make accusations. Put yourself in her shoes, if you were still an uberdub, and it was your son, how would you react?

Be careful! Shit can hit the fan with no more than one sentence.

All the best.

Nose

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Iran is so beautiful - take a quick trip ...

by fulltimestudent in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznhd0jgh2k&feature=share .

BreathoftheIndianNose

Wow. I feel so brainwashed now. This country's beautiful. I want to go!

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

BreathoftheIndianNose

This is such a great idea! And frankly, it's about time we had some sort of an organization that can be the mouthpiece of ex jdubs. I have a few recommendations:

1. I feel that the name is slightly destructive to AAWA's causes, both present and future. It is good to keep the focus critical on the watchtower org and not the members, but the name could impose the idea that the AAWA is biased and hellbent on destroying the org. This, in my opinion, should not be the goal but rather the goal should be to expose the problems of the church. Also, it should provide a safe haven for JWs who need help leaving, learning, and/or understanding.

2. Tell me how you feel about this idea: It might be helpful for the AAWA to known of some trusted exjdubs in specific areas of the world who can help any current Jdubs, in their area, in need. Say for example the AAWA is contacted by an individual in New York who who has just been DFed and needs a place to stay and someone to talk to. The AAWA could check their New York database for a trusted exjdub volunteer and connect her with the individual in need of help. Just an idea, not sure of how it could all be executed but its worth looking into. It would have helped me in the past.

Either way, it looks great and we're all here to support it.

Nose

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Mt Sinai in Saudi Arabia ?

by Infowarrior in

most people think mt sinai is in the sinai penisula in egypt, but some suggest their is significant evidance of mt sinai being in saudi arabia.. .

evidence points to the beaches of nuwayba in egypt by the gulf of aqaba (red sea) being the point of the red sea crossing.. .

it is thought king solomon put a pillar marking this on each side of the crossing.. (nuweiba egypt).

BreathoftheIndianNose

Those that go looking for something, always find it.

When "researchers" go looking for evidence for an ancient event that they already are certain to have happened, they are bound to come up with ample "evidence" for it. It can be kind of fun try to search for these things that fit a certain myth, but it still doesn't prove a goddamn thing other than that humans have great imaginations. It's like when you consciously look at the clouds or the stars for specific images, your bound to find them pretty quick, but it still isn't good for anything but an exercise for the imagination.

kNose

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shunning wrecks families

by bigmac in

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thread started to avoid going off topic elsewhere.. this matter of shunning---my story.. i made the decision to resign from the jw religion in my early twenties--i'm 65 now.

i knew i would never deny any of mine a blood transfusion--just to appease this religion --and its deity.. my jw wife had just had our first child--a girl---and we went on over the next 7 years to have 2 more planned for kids---both boys.

i like to think i was a good dad--they meant everything to me.. i hold up my hand and admit i caused the break up of that marriage---my wife stayed in the religion--and--apparently it was announced in the kh i couldnt be d/f'd---as i hadnt been a jw for years---so they said i was an apostate.. fast forward a few years--into the mid 80's---i had remarried--and led a relatively normal life.

BreathoftheIndianNose

Sorry BigMac. I feel for you. This cult is such bullshit. Like clarity said, "the audacity to mess with poeple's family." These sad toads in the GB are not worthy of living among humans let alone leading and controling some. The worst part about it is how they can so slyly shift the guilt from their shoulders to the "Apostates" and those that have been kicked out, and our families take the bait hook line and sinker. Our families feel we are to blame and the GB are near squeaky clean. So sad. At least you have some sort of a relationship with your son... Cherish it. You're valued here.

Breath

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Misquotes, Lies and deception in Watchtower Publications

by jwfacts in

i have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.

most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.

there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.

BreathoftheIndianNose

Thank you Thank you Thank you Paul! Keep up the good work!

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w92 7/15: "It is the obligation of all JWs to hate apostates"

by cedars in

today i was doing some research for a new article, and i came across the following quote which succeeded in raising my eyebrows.... "the obligation to hate lawlessness also applies to all activity by apostates.

our attitude toward apostates should be that of david, who declared: 'do i not hate those who are intensely hating you, o jehovah, and do i not feel a loathing for those revolting against you?

with a complete hatred i do hate them.

BreathoftheIndianNose

Didn't Jesus comand his followers to love their enemies? Matt 5:44. O well. Haters be hatin'.

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Misquotes, Lies and deception in Watchtower Publications

by jwfacts in

i have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.

most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.

there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.

BreathoftheIndianNose

"Yet it is stated now stated that the Watchtower consistently placed this event as 1914."

Typo

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What is your religious belief now?

by jwfacts in

i have a new poll at jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/ as i am very interested to see what people have moved on to believe.

as this is considered sensitive by some, you can answer anonymously at the jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/, or answer on this thread.

this is what i have created in the list, but feel free to add comments, corrections, or options i have missed.. .

BreathoftheIndianNose

Atheist untill something changes my mind.