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joyfulfader
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Anyone see the Today Show segment on Scientology this mornign 1/17?
by dreamgolfer invery good publicity to what a cult is... (ssshhhh i have a crush on savannah guthrie )she is soooo smart!.
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Anyone see the Today Show segment on Scientology this mornign 1/17?
by dreamgolfer invery good publicity to what a cult is... (ssshhhh i have a crush on savannah guthrie )she is soooo smart!.
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joyfulfader
I saw it and I think tonight is a Nightline with Brian Williams where the cult will be further discussed. Part one...i think
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Helpful Techniques For Getting In Your Pioneer Time
by Bangalore inhelpful techniques for getting in your pioneer time.. .
remember: there is a time for everything under the sun.. .
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=453&itemid=8.
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joyfulfader
All of those techniques sound familiar. My old hall had several brothers pioneering who never seemed to talk to anyone but had their time by spring by starting their time at 7am and ending at 2p, counting everything in between. 3 days a week x 7 plus the obligatory Saturday using a similar method yielding 5 hrs gives one a grand total of 26 hrs per week. Doing this means one has their time in 32-33 weeks with about 4 to 5 months to coast or take a vaca...
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I am new here and need help...or just a listening ear
by Fallingaway inmy husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.
my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.
i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.
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joyfulfader
It is so sad that a label, a mere word cast upon another person can divide families and hurt innocent people. As was brought out on another thread a while back, it's not the ACTIONS of a person but that LABEL thrust upon them without option that causes divisions. Without those words, so many families would stay intact and fewer people would suffer the unavoidable, ensuing mental anguish that is certain to happen. Jesus would have never acted in this way. Period.
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please help
by joyfulfader ini am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.
we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.
she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.
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joyfulfader
my friend has just posted her story on her own thread under the name fallingaway
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Parents forum - moaning about JW's knocking
by not bitter inone of the mums on this forum is complaining about dubs knocking her door.
she wont answer the door because they unintentionally upset her very much the last time they called which was a few years back.
apparently she answered the door and the witness ladies opening statement, with a lovely smiling face, was .
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joyfulfader
all that needs to be done is post a no trespassing sign. jw's r instructed to not go to homes with these signs or they r on their own legally. even the most uber elder pioneer in my former hall skipped those houses. we took addresses to write but never went to the houses.
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please help
by joyfulfader ini am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.
we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.
she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.
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joyfulfader
And it's hard to not want to sprint once you are awake. Putting the brakes on takes great will power when one is surrounded by the infuriating craziness that is the org. I am hoping her hubby starts to wake up as well.
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please help
by joyfulfader ini am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.
we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.
she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.
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joyfulfader
She truly wants to keep her family intact. I am updating her and telling her to read all your responses. I am sure those of you who have been successful will be of great encouragement to her. Thanks to all.
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please help
by joyfulfader ini am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.
we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.
she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.
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joyfulfader
I am so anxious for her to be able to post but thanks soft+gentle. Hope is on the horizon.
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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...
by flipper in..... you to stop attending ?
injustices ?
disagree with the teachings ?
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joyfulfader
My last meeting was the end of December 2011. I saw too much over the top hypocrisy and politics plus the 1914/generation thing bugged me as well as no birthdays but baby showers and wedding anniversaries are fine. Waaaay too many double standards. Tell a householder to analyze their own beliefs and change no matter what and jw's ask one valid but unanswerable question and r labeled apostates. It's the arbitrary labels placed upon ones based on which set of elders one gets in their game of spiritual roulette. An elder stopped by the other day. Just one. I told him that I was NEVER coming back. He said "but I want you to live". I said "for the first time in my life, I am".