My great grandmother always invited us over for dinner Christmas eve. We always went for dinner but my dad requested no gifts. We received gifts in non Christmas paper a couple of weeks later a visit or 2 after the holidays. It's like we met in the middle. We shared precious family time while respecting each other's beliefs. They didn't force Christmas on us and we didn't insist on keeping our distance. I say "we" since it was my family but it was my dad's decision and he was PO at the time. Maybe it can be discussed to be a time of family spending time together and not focus on the holiday aspect.
joyfulfader
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"You need to witness to her about Christmas"
by DS211 inwell thats what my wife said when my grandma stopped by for a visit and invited us to hang out with them christmas eve.
after she left, my wife said i needed to witness to her and remind her that we do nkt celebrate it and that it is the worst holiday to celebrate (actually halloween is lol).
i felt this wasnt the time to argue so i decided to tell her i would look into that.
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How many inactive/DF JWs do You think know TTATT?
by BU2B inso many have faded away for various reasons, or get df and stop attending meetings and go on with their lives.
i wonder how many of them have researched that the org may not be the truth, and how many go on believing it, but just mve on with their lives because they feel they are inadequate, cant live up to the standards, etc and feel they will be destroyed in armadeddon.
they physically free themselves but mentally are slaves.
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joyfulfader
My siblings faded long before me and have lived as typical "worldly" people. Their fades were not precipitatated by traumatic events to open their eyes to the insane hypocrisy and lies like mine was. I can't say anything at all anti JW to the one (she runs to my dad who is never going to leave) and the other still thinks it is The Truth but would take a blood transfusion. Both haven't had anything to do with the org for many years and celebrate holidays but are still of the basic cult mind. Was a sad revelation to me. Continues to be so. In fact all df'd persons I have had contact with are still mentally in and speak of going back at some point. Most inactives as well. Sad.
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Did you feel nervous before/while giving talks?
by likeabird inthe subject of feeling nervous came up in sfpw recent thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/268270/2/im-curious-when-you-were-asked-to-do-a-demo-for-a-service-meeting-part-how-did-the-request-make-you-feel#.uqgz_0nd13b.
it reminded me of a sister i knew.
you always knew when you got to the meeting if she had a talk that night.
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joyfulfader
I never got nervous and was informed over and over that not being nervous was a sign I was relying on myself and not Jehovah. A most undesirable trait...but that didn't stop them from asking me up to half way through the bible reading to fill in. As a woman that meant finding an equally not nervous hh. I had my go to girls. I have to say the org did help my public speaking.
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Governing Body member Sam Heard at our Assembly
by problemaddict innice enough gentleman.
the parts were pretty watered down.
mom asks him if he is ready.....did he clean off all the dirt?
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joyfulfader
I could not sit through one more assembly. I hope I would not have laughed at the killing part even if I was still in. I remember hearing experiences or anectodal comments when i was still "in" that disturbed me and I wouldn't laugh or clap. There is nothing funny about billions dying. No JW puts a face to those individual 7 billion. They don't picture their niece or nephew or the sweet neighbor who brings soup when they are under the weather bloodied and massacred by a "loving" god. All witnesses see is a mass of Satan worshipping pagans who deserve to die enmass. There is no individualism or emotional connection to the actual people they expect to be destroyed.
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Kingdom Hall Weddings - November Kingdom Ministry
by BluesBrother inif this has already been posted up - then i missed it.. this question box left me .
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joyfulfader
I remember sitting through an almost 90 min wedding talk. There was whispering and fidgeting and bewildered looks all around. It was tortuous. Plus we were all starved by reception time but it was a potluck type dinner so it was delayed. Happily I do believe their marriage did work out.
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My brother died yesterday
by satinka in"albert" was 55 years old, and the fifth-born of seven children.
i am the second oldest and babysat him often while he was growing up --- and while i was still at home.. yesterday, albert was out taking his usual morning stroll around his small town, when he collapsed on the sidewalk.
the doctors said it was a heart attack.
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joyfulfader
I am truly sorry for your loss Satinka.
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Quite an interesting first meeting with my Therapist.
by truthseekeriam inthe moment i mentioned jehovah's witnesses he headed over to his file cabinet and handed me this print out.. .
dear beloved one, .
i see your loneliness and fears.
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joyfulfader
I agree...red flags regardless of his opinions on the cult. He still has a religious agenda of sorts. My therapist waited 8 long years of knowing it was a cult to let me realize it myself and I couldn't be more thankful. To hit a patient like that off the bat is not appropriate in my opinion.
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I'm curious, when you were asked to do a demo for a Service Meeting part, how did the request make you feel?
by Stand for Pure Worship indid you decline out of fear?
decline because you hated doing demos?
accept the request graciously?
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joyfulfader
Never bothered me. I could always bullshit my way through anything :)
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Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
by rawe inhas anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?
what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.
if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.
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joyfulfader
I was contacted on Match.com by a guy who is Mormon. That was a quick and big no way. It's a cult just like the witnesses. Their beliefs are a bit odd. I have chosen to stay out of religion all together.
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For a Jehovah's Witness, which causes more problems: a decorated tree, or a decorated woman?
by I_love_Jeff inlet's say that a brother, joe, is walking to kingdom hall and he passes a store display featuring a christmas tree.
"wretched pagans!
" he mutters to himself.
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joyfulfader
I do still look the same lol...better now I think, since I don't have to fake smiling.
I don't mind my experience being told. It is ridiculous. If it helps show the sexism in the org by all means.
Another time I was in a turtleneck long sleeved dress giving a demo on the service meeting and was pulled aside afterward and told to stop looking good on stage because the brothers were focusing on my appearance as opposed to the information. I was shocked as I was not showing a bit of skin. None. Was mid calf length as well.
As FlyingHighNow says, they don't have to worry about that anymore. These pretty trees have left the building.