Posts by joyfulfader

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How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

by BucketShopBill in

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is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

joyfulfader

I do not post very often but I feel compelled to do so at this time. Terry has contributed greatly to this forum and other areas with his research and insight. He has brought out so many points I never thought to research myself and spurred me on to do so. The member causing contention on this thread just saddens me...truly. Please get past your hatred and what I perceive to be a hint of jealousy and find another thread to cause trouble. You obviously have lost sight of the kind motivation behind the start of this thread.

Thank you Terry for all you contribute!!

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Do you like the people in the Bible?

by Dis-Member in

the society always speaks about all the wonderful people and characters in the bible.. they always too speak of many of them as being so humble, faithful, loyal, diligent, loving, kind, wise, merciful etc, and worthy of imitation.

also of how god blessed them followed by endless examples and reasons why we today should imitate them.. .

they also speak of how wonderful it would be to meet some of these people in the future 'new system' and have often depicted scenes where the the survivors of armageddon would be gathered around some ancient resurrected faithful asking them questions and listening to their stories of times past.

joyfulfader

i honestly havent thought about this in ages since it has absolutely no bearing on how I live my life nor do I really think it will ever happen (I won't know till I die anyway) but...there are few people in the bible I would actually care to meet. Jael, Jonah, Mary Magdalene, Abigail are the few I can think of on the spur of the moment. Abraham just pisses me off for even CONSIDERING killing his son and luring him up on a mountain under false pretenses. The people of today would crucify anyone who did that...

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Brett King (Jehovah's Witness) Releases Video of why he removed his ill son, Ashya, from a UK hospital

by jwleaks in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .

jw leaks.

joyfulfader

I see nothing JW related to this story at all except that it is the faith they claim to have. I deal with doctors and hospitals daily as a patient right's advocate and so often doctors are just plain wrong. The level of disconnect that so many doctors get to is astounding. It's self preservation most times because of all the terrible things seen but there is no way I relate what this family is going through to being part of the religion. Horrible situation to be in and he and his family are not the first to risk everything to have comfort and peace for their child.

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Post some niceness ! There is too much negativity in the world.

by new hope and happiness in

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so here we are on a niceness thread talking about nice things.. yesterday a very pretty girl left her mobile behind at the computer in the libary, i returned it to her and she gave me a hug.

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joyfulfader

The sun is shining, life is great and my tomatoes FINALLY came in....all 7 plants. Time to make fresh tomato sauce!!!

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How have you changed since finding TTATT ?

by Phizzy in

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on coftys thread about his former pastor trying to re-convert him, which is very long but a tremendous discussion of the problem of evil, a poster, sunny23, wrote :.

" having been 7 months since i first posted on the first page of this topic i have just read those posts and acknowledged a huge transfromation in myself for the better."..

i was only thinking the other day how, as i discovered this site and ttatt, i really changed as a person in so many ways, and i think mainly for the better.. i have been "born again" !!.

joyfulfader

I have been out mentally for 4 years and out physically for 3. I am, by far, a better, happier person overall with so much less stress. I live in a new town and can even ask the witnesses that come by my house the questions I could never ask since no one knows me. Anonymity has been a great gift. I transitioned from thinking I was a "lover of Jehovah/God", to confused about everything, so I visited some churches to find answers....read lots and lots. Compared bibles and then realized I never believed any of it. I don't want to be a non believer. I still search diligently on a daily basis to believe and find a reason to believe but I just can't. I want there to be some afterlife and maybe there is...no one will know until they die. Having no belief is actually less stressful than believing because now I know I am a good person because I AM a good person, not because I am being blackmailed and guilted into being such. The only drawback is that my parents are getting older and the thought of losing them is utterly terrifying.

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It's All About Tablets

by metatron in

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well, that seems to be the latest hot thing amoung witnesses.

everybody buys a tablet.

even the poor families that eat carb heavy meals are gettin' em.. maybe they can't afford the latest apple product like the maxi/mini pad or whatever they're calling it these days so a trip to ebay or overstock.com fills the bill.. use it instead of a songbook.

joyfulfader

I used my iPad before I left 3 yrs ago. I was the only one using one at the KH at the time and it was looked at as being ostentatious. 2 elders even counseled me for using it. I said that if the society made the downloads available, all bets were off. It was just another reason on my long list of reasons to leave. Personally I think they were tired of dealing with my headstrong nature. Funny that I was actually ahead of my time lol. Bet those 2 elders have their own tablets now!!

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At what age did you notice time went by so fast?

by adjusted knowledge in

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i like so many americans left my parent's house as soon as i could (age 19).

i would see them maybe one or two times a year for the next ten years.

when i hit thirty and got married it was even less frequent.

joyfulfader

I started noticing when I hit 30 that years seemed to go by more quickly. When I woke up to TTATT at 38 it was a slap in the face. Almost half my life was gone and I was just beginning to have dreams and aspirations that we're once forbidden. As a single mom I will never have my PhD in genetic research like I want...I have a college bound daughter. My parents are aging unbelievably...as I watch. Painful. Now that I am 42 and fully cognizant of how time is passing oh so rapidly, I AM back in school to continue my education (I did go to college at 30) and I LOVE my life. 42="the answer to life, the universe and everything"-Hitchhiker''s Guide to the Galaxy

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If you don't like being a Jehovah's Witness then leave....

by Quirky1 in

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if you don't like being a jehovah's witness or going to the kingdom hall or the society then leave.... it's as simple as that... .

i left several years ago and have not been hounded, bothered or sought out by anyone.

i still see them from time to time, and yes, they do pour out the love bomb when you run into them, but eh, you know what?

joyfulfader

I was fortunate enough to have been able to just walk away, BUT that is not the norm. My friend is mentally out and has not been to a meeting in close to a year. This person's SPOUSE is weak but still IN mentally. There are children and a loving marriage at stake. It's just NOT that easy to make a blanket statement. The Org wants people to be trapped and feel like they can't go anywhere. While I think some do stay unnecessarily for purely social reasons (not family), it's not fair to think everyone is like you. We are the lucky ones.

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JW Lady Witnesses to me in My Truck While Trying to get a Nap !

by flipper in

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incredible.

absolutely incredible.

so i asked, " isn't it 100 years since 1914 ?

joyfulfader

Good job Flipper. If I had someone comes up to me I would bring up the fractions thing as well as the fact that they only use OTHER people's fractions and don't donate to the supply themselves. Take...take...take...

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Amway

by paul from cleveland in

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maybe you're all familiar with this subject already but i just came across it tonight.

it's an article about whether or not amway is a cult.

the similarities between jehovah's witnesses and amway are incredible.. http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/amcult.html.

joyfulfader

I was a distributor back in the 90's. My upline was a witness and so were all of my fellow distributors. The person we got all our tapes from made all their money from the tapes and business building materials. They were relying on the witness leg to go "Ruby" but the entire line collapsed within a year. My ex and I even attended the big big meeting in DC. Lots of similarities to JW's. I still like Tri-zyme though. The rest was sooooo overpriced.